Description
A speed hump is needed at this location. Vehicles often travel too fast up and down this hill. Some race up it as they come around the bend from 10th Ave toward 8th, while others speed down from 8th Ave.
also asked...
Q. What is the problem?
A. This is creating a dangerous situation. There is a daycarelocated here with young children. There are also numerous pedestrians and cyclistsgusing the road since there is no sidewalkA speed hump here would limit the speeding hazard.
A. This is creating a dangerous situation. There is a daycarelocated here with young children. There are also numerous pedestrians and cyclistsgusing the road since there is no sidewalkA speed hump here would limit the speeding hazard.
Q. Specific location?
A. NW 180th St between 8th Ave and 10th Ave
A. NW 180th St between 8th Ave and 10th Ave
Q. Does it pose a hazard?
A. YES
A. YES
16 Comments
Acknowledged City of Shoreline (Verified Official)
Anne (Registered User)
MARK GLYNN (Registered User)
Closed City of Shoreline (Verified Official)
Thank you for bringing your concern to our attention.
Your service request has been resolved and is closed. If you have any questions please contact us at 206-801-2700.
City of Shoreline
Customer Response Team
206-801-2700
crteam@shorelinewa.gov
Reopened An anonymous SeeClickFix user (Registered User)
Acknowledged City of Shoreline (Verified Official)
Anne (Registered User)
City of Shoreline (Verified Official)
We apologize for the confusion. Not everyone at City Hall has access to See Click Fix to submit responses. The traffic engineer sent the following response yesterday afternoon but I had not had a chance to update See Click Fix with the response prior to the service request being closed in our internal system.
Please see the response below:
Thanks for writing in with your concerns about speeding and traffic safety on NW 180th Street. The City reviews traffic safety holistically and citywide through a process called our Annual Traffic Report, which can be found online at: https://www.shorelinewa.gov/home/showpublisheddocument/49572/637378391275930000
This process reviews all collision data in the City on an annual basis to determine strategic safety mitigation projects to address the most problematic locations. This data-driven process ensures the community receives the most benefit out of the very limited traffic safety resource available by prioritizing locations with a consistent history of collisions first, as there is insufficient funding to address all locations that experience collisions or concern. In evaluating high collision locations, we typically look at a 3-year period for total collisions and 5-year period for injury, pedestrian and bicyclist collisions. Over the last 3 years, there have been no reported collisions on this segment of NW 180th between 8th and 10th and there have been no reported injury, pedestrian or bicyclist collisions reported in our data dating back to 2010. As such, this segment of roadway has not been prioritized for traffic safety improvements. The segment east of 8th Ave NW is classified as an arterial, and therefore is not eligible for physical traffic calming devices as it serves as an important connection for emergency responders, buses and other large vehicles.
You are welcome to use our driver education tools, such as “drive like your kids live here” yard signs or radar speed feedback signs; if you are interested in either of these, please contact Darron Deranleau at dderanleau@shorelinewa.gov or 206-801-2432.
Please feel free to contact us at 206-801-2700 with questions or to discuss this further.
Customer Response Team - City of Shoreline
MARK GLYNN (Registered User)
So, clearly this is a big issue. Many community members are expressing the same concern. Speeding motorists that don't care about a sign that states "kids live here." What we need are speed bumps to force motorists to slow down on NW 180th Street.
Just because there isn't data to support it, meaning no one has been killed, isn't a reason to ignore the potential harm that could take place. In fact, it's just a matter of time until a distracted speeding motorists kills a person or severely injuries them.
Let me ask this question, what was the data that supported speed bumps being installed on 6th Ave NW between 180th NW and 185th NW? Did someone in that three year period get hurt?
Why wouldn't then common sense apply to a huge hill and a stretch of road that generates a ton of speed be applied?
MARK GLYNN (Registered User)
Anne (Registered User)
City of Shoreline (Verified Official)
We only block users when absolutely necessary and I am not seeing that here. I can see a comment you made at 11:01 and then your follow up comment about being blocked by rejections at 11:13. I am not seeing any blocked comments. I am not sure why you received notification of rejection or being blocked.
I will forward these recent comments and questions to the City Traffic Engineer for a response.
Customer Response Team - City of Shoreline
City of Shoreline (Verified Official)
Thanks for this feedback; we understand that speeding is a frustrating challenge residents face citywide. In 2020, the City moved away from complaint-based traffic safety programming. We now rely on data to guide traffic safety improvement decision making. This ensures limited traffic safety resources are used equitably (as we receive about 400 similar complaints citywide each year) and to achieve maximum benefit – working toward the goal of reducing injury collisions where we know they are happening. For more information about this decision, please see the staff report presented to Council in February 2020, and linked here (beginning on page 164): Packet022420.pdf (shoreline.wa.us).
Unfortunately, all jurisdictions are in the position of being reactive to collisions, rather than preventative. Shoreline experiences around 500 collisions per year, and about 50 of these result in injury; it is our duty to prioritize safety improvements for locations where multiple and routine collisions are occurring first, rather than divert limited resources to locations without significant collision history.
Last, to clarify, NW 180th Street between 6th Ave NW and 8th Ave NW is an arterial street and therefore is not eligible for speed humps as it serves as an important connection for emergency responders, transit, and other large vehicles.
For further questions or comments, please contact City Traffic Engineer, Kendra Dedinsky at kdedinsky@shorelinewa.gov.
Anne (Registered User)
City of Shoreline (Verified Official)
Anne - here is the response to your question -
"Yes, you are welcome to use one of our temporary radar speed feedback carts – please contact Darron Deranleau at 206-801-2433 or dderanleau@shorelinewa.gov to coordinate use. Please note that permanent radar speed feedback signs have been primarily grant-funded, and there is no funding for a permanent radar speed feedback sign for this location at this time."
Customer Response Team - City of Shoreline
Kmad25 (Registered User)