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if you feel there is such a high demand perhaps you should open your own coffee shop

I doubt that anyone in the community would create a place for *anyone* if that person/group didn't work at finding a place themselves. Make your own place. Hang out in the same place/coffeeshop/bar/wherever and you'll eventually have a 'place' of your own. If you're a paying customer who doesn't cause trouble, then no one's going to throw you out.

This IS something Prince Albert does really need. And no Mr. Hermiteowitch, not a bathhouse. I think you need to grow up. It is time Prince Albert gets with the times, and it is time people like Mr. Hermiteowitch open their eyes. I can guarantee someone in your family is gay...maybe you just don't know it! The ratio is 1 in ten. So Mr. Hermiteowitch, if you took 10 men (ok, lets take 15...give you the benefit of the doubt), from your extended family and family, one would be gay! Here is a little blurp from Wiki Answers...

"According to most of what I've read, The US census bureau reports that aproximately 1% of the population is LGBT. However this is an estimate based upon same sex marriages and civil unions, which does not count singles or those who are too afraid to report that they a gay. In a social diversity class I attended, we were told a more accurate estimate was that 1 in 10 people were either gay, bisexual, or were a repressed homosexual/bisexual (meaning they had feelings for the same sex but were too afraid of the adverse effects to act upon such feelings) what a shame! 1 in 10 people and they are treated like they were little green men from another planet!"

Say enough? Grow up, and pull your head out of you know where. Also, notice that this was viewed 476 times when I posted this. Think that might mean something????

Actually, JANHWP, the views may not be indicative of *people* viewing the information. Spiders and bots do the same thing, view pages that they've searched for based on the content of the keywords and page. Your citing of American stats aren't doing your argument any good, either, but that's beside the point.

Thing is, if a group of people want a safe place to meet, they find a place they can meet until they can afford to rent private space. Then they rent the private space until they can afford to build their own place. What I'm hearing from the OP is that they want the City/community to build a place for them. If you want to 'make it happen', get off your duff and do it.

if something like this is to happen, The Christian element in this community has to be dealt with.

um, there used to be gay bars in PA. No problems. So many out gay people in PA these days and many more closeted due to fear. The fear is caused mainly by the closeted ones who make it hard on out ones to look straight. I've never met a straight person who doesn't like gay people. Why would they? More women or more men for them lol. Anyhow a Nightclub in pa would be a great start. I am not suggesting a gay one either, but how about a nightclub?

you want one so bad open one up. that is how other businesses get started. someone has a dream and they follow through. not ask others to build it for them. but then i guess if it was a flop it would be there money down the drain, not the one with the dream come on just go for it follow your dream open your own.

I think it's a great idea. P.A. is more diverse now than ever. Liberal thinking will dispel hatred and racism.
I remember High School in the 80's when a gay man couldn't be openly gay without constant harassment and severe bullying. It's high time we opened our minds to everyone and not just the individual. Diversity and freedom choice and lifestyle are a must.Good topic. :)

No one needs to be "dealt with". Everyone needs to be free to live their lives, as they see fit (or believe is right). I am not a supporter of strong religious types telling people who to live their lives, but I can also understand that they THINK they are trying to help (however misguided that is). I think as a whole, we need to have more acceptance, more kindness, and more love in our lives, and in our view points. I think we need to respect others for the lives they lead. One can be Christian and still be a supporter of LGTB people, and can even fall into one of those catergories themselves. I know several Christians who's viewpoint on Gay, Lesbian, Transgendered and Bisexual people is "Who cares who sleeps with who, or who loves who?? Everyone should have the freedom to be themselves".

Why is that the responsibility of the taxpayer ? Not saying it isn't need but why can't it be privately funded ?

The old six shooters is still up for sale. Should have the right zoning for a bar/night club. Buy it. Oh I forgot the money issue!

who are you asking to do this? If you want it, do it yourself. don't wait and hope for something to happen, make it happen! (or at least mobilize the LGTB community)

Looked into the old Six Shooters. It would have the zoning buy the property and building is in my opinion overpriced and the building would have to be completely gutted. May as well build a new one, but the city will not allow a nightclub here as the red tap stands today. Write to the mayor.

I think if the gay community wants a place then get a place.

Who should make this happen? The city? You? a GLBT group? its a good idea but who should do this?

Perhaps some of the gay leaders of the community could help make this happen, that is, if they weren't so closeted. You know some of the ppl I'm referring to....

Well, if they're too afraid to make this happen, they're certainly not going to be brave enough to show up and use the place.

I say why is it every small interest group thinks its the publics duty to provide them with something.If there are enough people in this group then they can make their own meeting place if it is something they feel the need for.I think the bridge and other major city problems are more of a requirement then having to make this an issue.

My name is Jennifer Lenny Brockman and I help organize the yearly Pride Parade. I had moved to Edmonton for 18 months and I recently moved back. I am planning on hosting monthly LGBT2QIA get2gethers. Please contact me if you are interested in attending and or helping to establish a place of safety, I would appreciate that very much. I have gotten permission from an agency to allow us to meet at their location for the time being. I think a mix of OUTings in the community as well as at this location would be a great start as people can choose their levels of comfort with public or private get2gethers. My email is pa_pride@yahoo.com I look forward to hearing from you! :)

Further, 23 people in this posting believe PA needs a safe space for the LGBT2 community. Let's do it PA! Let's have a community forum and start talking about how this can be achieved! Email me at pa_pride@yahoo.com or find me on Facebook and together let's make this vision a reality! - Jennifer

In response to seenitall, we are not looking for a handout like the majority of PA does. As far as priorities go, maybe we should see if we can have space available in the fieldhouse? lol.

Nice to see Jennifer. I will definately be in contact with you.

i guess you do not go to any of the lounges or bars here in the city there is alot of gay people in those places,now i also have to ask why would this group be so special that they need their own place to hang out at?what would your reaction be if someone ask for a place where straight people could hang out or whites only or natives or asian and i can go on and on and on.if you want to be accepted by society then do not try to seperate yourself from everyone else

in response to thetruth all we ask for is a place to meet a safe place . im a lesbian proud of it .thetruth you have no idea what its like being gay in this city so shut your mouth

Kimmy you take offence far too easily. thetruth is merely pointing out that if you keep a group separate from the rest of society then don't be surprised if it is treated differently. We need a more inclusive society not a lot of little exclusive groups. That is the best way to fight prejudice.
As for the idea put forward by others about someone buying and opening a gay bar...well if someone sees a demand for such a place then raise the money and obtain the property and open one up. Take some ownership of the place and go for it but don't expect others to fund your business venture.

ATTENTION: to the person who opened this issue, and to others who may be interested please contact me at ordania.rule@gmail.com I have an idea but I need help in order started. First off for starters is a meet and greet. My name is Laura

I totally support this and hats of f to Jennifer! I am also a lesbian/bi leader in the Community who is not closeted. The agency I work for also supports the GLBT2 community and would be willing to help out with Jennifer's program.

Donna Brooks
Executive Director
YWCA Prince Albert

Hi Laura, I sent you an email. - Jennifer

I see a "For Sale" sign on a church building in River Street. It would make a perfect venue. I wonder how much it is going for?

I love all the positive ideas that are being presented. I agree a meet and greet is in order and in terms of a community forum Donna has graciously offered a meeting room. Laura, when and where would you like to have the meet and greet? Let's all gather and get to know one another and then have a more formalized discussion and idea sharing at a community forum? What do you think? We can ascertian our individual strengths and gifts we have to offer to get a LGBT2 centre started and ways to have community events for visibility and awareness. I am so thrilled for all the good energy coming forth and for the naysayers, well, we are @#$%, we are here, welcome us! =D

if donna has offered a meeting room. we could meet.. it would have to be the afternoon. when would it best? i can make time.

jennifer i emailed you and sent a friend request on facebook.

Morning Laura and the 37 other people who wish to have a LGBT2 safe space. Pending approval for the day, time, and meeting room availability, how would Sat. Oct. 15th at 4:30pm work for everyone? I work until 4pm, so unfortunately I am unable to attend any earlier. This meeting can also be used to brainstorm the needs of the LGBT2 community: safe space, social group meetings, youth group meetings, public events, etc, and by accessing needs, an action plan can be developed. All Allies and LGBT2 people, and all ages are encouraged to attend as the greater number of voices and input, the more effective strategic plan can be developed for our community. I am just so excited! :D - Jennifer

Oh, that would be at the YWCA, 1895 Central Ave (on top of the bridge, right hand side) :)

I think think pa does need a place for this, even a small coffee shop or lounge, "straight friendly" like saskatoon's 302. So much diversity there, and very non threatening. I think the reason we need to have someone designated as a "gay" bar or lounge with "straight friendly" at the end is to let people know that going to this place means you are comfortable to be in this establishment. Not because we think we are special in any way, its because it can be intimidating to be open in a place where you feel unwelcome.

Hello all. Please join us and let's discussion in person at a @#$% Qmunity Forum at the YWCA at 1895 Central Avenue on Sat Oct 15th at 5:00pm. Please feel free to call me at 940-6836 or email me at pa_pride@yahoo.com if you have any questions. The time is now to take the next steps and establish a safe pace for the LGBT2 community to go to and to plan social activities for our community. I look forward to meeting you there!

Absolutely... it's actually quite shocking that a city the size of PA, so forward moving in the arts, is lacking a @#$% space... there are many gay, lesbian, bi/ trans folks around and we do need a centre! There are still people, and especially young people, dying to suicide or to violence because they are not straight... until it's no longer an issue, there needs to be a safe space for @#$% people to go and know that they are ok.

YES! lets get something going it was very surprising to me when i moved here that being such a large city there was such a lack of LGTBQ community here! lets all meet and bond! every one come to the @#$% Qmunity Forum at the YWCA - see you all there!

Hello, A friendly reminder to bring your voice to the @#$% Qmunity Forum at the YWCA (up the hill) tomorrow (Sat) at 5pm. Snacks will be provided. =)

Thank you to all who attended the first meeting! The next Diversity Qmunity Meeting will be Oct 29th at 5pm at the YWCA @ 1895 Central Avenue (up the hill). The last meeting helped to establish the frameworks for a Diversity Steering committee. The next meeting will expand on the ideas developed for a name, mission statement, objectives, and action plan. If you are interested in being a part of the future board, please attend and put your name forth. This Board will develop ways to support the LGBT2 Qmunity in PA; such as, establishing a safe space, fundraising for @#$% projects, supporting the Pride Festival, networking with Ally organizations, education of the Qmunity, @#$% friendly social events, etc. I hope to see you there. - Jennifer

Awesome 2nd meeting of the Diversity Steering Committee. The Mission Statement, Vision Statement, and Values are established. Next meeting will be Board Elections and finalizing a name - Nov. 12 @ 5pm, YWCA on the hill. Please attend and vote for the Board and help name the new committee :)

POSTPONEMENT: The next Diversity Qmunity Meeting will be Dec 3rd at 5pm at the YWCA @ 1895 Central Avenue (up the hill). The first meeting helped to establish the frameworks for a Diversity Steering committee. The second meeting established the Mission Statement, Vision Statement, and Values. Next meeting will be Board Elections and finalizing a name. Based on the community feedback, this Board will look at objectives developed, prioritize them, and establish an action plan to support the LGBT2 Qmunity in PA; such as, establishing a safe space, fundraising for @#$% projects, supporting the Pride Festival, networking with Ally organizations, education of the Qmunity, @#$% friendly social events, etc.

All Allies and LGBT2 people of all ages are encouraged to attend as the greater number of voices and input, the more effective strategic plan can be developed for our community.

Much thanks to Donna Brooks, Executive Director at the YWCA, for donating the meeting space at the YWCA for this event

Please feel free to contact me at 940-6836 if you have any further questions. I am just so excited at the momentum that is being developed with this community and I look forward to seeing you at the forum!

Hello: A friendly reminder of the Sat. Dec 3rd meeting at the YWCA meeting room (1895 Central Ave) where Board elections will be held for the Diversity Steering Commitee and a name for the committee will be decided upon. Feel free to contact me at 940-6836 or for more info or email at pa_pride@yahoo.com. See you there! - Jennifer

Yay! A brand new LGBT2 board in PA The "Prince Albert Q-Network". There will be a meet and greet for the community in the New Year! Wahooooo :)

Whens The Next Meeting?

You are invited to a Meet and Greet Potluck in the New Year to meet the new Board and Committee volunteers of the Prince Albert Q-Network. This is also a time to meet other community members. All are welcome to attend.
Please bring your favorite dish to share, if possible. If not, that is okay, your presence is what matters to us.

5:00pm - Jan 7th (SATURDAY)
The Prince Albert Multicultural Centre
17 - 11th Street West

Thank you,
Respectively,

Jennifer Lenny Brockman
Co-Chair
Prince Albert Q-Network
Phone: (306) 940-6836
Email: pa_pride@yahoo.com

The mayor and City Council have proclaimed March 25 to 31 as Transgender Awareness Week and march 31 as Transgender Day of Visibilty. In honor of this, on March 25, The Prince Albert Q-Network will be hosting a film and forum at the Prince Albert Multicultural Council (1410C Central Avenue ) from 2:30pm to 5:30pm.

The movie is "Two Spirits", an award winning documentary about Fed Martinez, a nádleehí, a male-bodied person with a feminine nature, a special gift according to his ancient Navajo culture. Fred became one of the youngest hate-crime victims in modern history when he was brutally murdered at sixteen. Between tradition and controversy, sex and spirit, and freedom and fear, lives the truth—the bravest choice you can make is to be yourself.Join us in Prince Albert for tea, coffee, and bannock, watch the film, and after listen to local Two-Spirited people share their stories.

Facebook Event http://www.facebook.com/events/270359133032226/

Feel free to call Jennifer at 940-6836 for more info or email pa_pride@yahoo.com