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To whom it may concern. As St. Pete has developed, I've noticed both an increase traffic and the speed of that traffic on our block. As it relates to the speed, I would like to understand what the process would be to request the installation of a speed bump on 7th Ave NE, between Oak and Bay? Thank You, Paul
10 Comments
Acknowledged Mayor's Action Center 2 (Registered User)
Michael Frederick, Mgr Transportation (Registered User)
In order to have speed humps considered, first Transportation Department staff conduct a 24-hour speed study. If we are able to verify the average operating speed of over 35 MPH the route would qualify. Second, a resident would have to circulate a petition where at least 2/3rds of the adjacent residents would have to sign in favor. Third, the neighborhood association must approve the new hump as an amendment to their traffic plan.
I can start the process by scheduling a speed study and post the results once completed.
Paul Kriegler (Registered User)
Michael Frederick, Mgr Transportation (Registered User)
Paul Kriegler (Registered User)
Thanks very much for the follow up, Michael.
Couple of additional items:
1. May I assume that the measurement point will be the midway between Beach and Bay - I would think that would theoretically represent the highest speed?
2. Regarding the speed threshold. i) May I request the rationale for the it being 35 vs. say 34, or 33? My understanding is that the speed limit on my block is 25 mph; therefore, what you are saying is that the average must be 40% higher than the speed limit, in order to even be considered. Delving a little deeper into the numbers: If half of the cars are determined to travel at 30 mph (20% over limit) and the other half at 39 mph (56% over limit), then we would not meet the threshold for consideration. According to the AAA report at the attached link, the standardized risk of death at the speed limit (25 mph) is 15%, almost dobubling to 30.6% at 34 mph, yet 34 mph average is not sufficient to for speed hump consideration. Could you please comment? https://www.aaafoundation.org/sites/default/files/2011PedestrianRiskVsSpeed.pdf Thank you, Paul
Michael Frederick, Mgr Transportation (Registered User)
1. - Yes - we always position our counters to locate the highest operating speeds.
2. - City Council set the minimum threshold for consideration of speed humps based on a 25 MPH speed limit and the courts 10 MPH grace on enforcement.
3. - This report generally supports setting of urban residential speed limits at 25MPH.
Michael Frederick, Mgr Transportation (Registered User)
Transportation Department staff complete traffic counts on 7th Avenue NE this past weekend and the 2-day average operating speeds where 24.60 MPH eastbound and 27.14 MPH westbound between Oak and Bay Streets. Over the two day period there were a total of 48 motorists or 1.6% of the 2,977 vehicles recorded that exceeded the 25 MPH speed limit by 10 MPH.
Based on these results this area does not meet the minimum requirements to consider a speed hump.
Paul Kriegler (Registered User)
Michael Frederick, Mgr Transportation (Registered User)
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Thank you - MAC