Agreed, these are important street markings especially with the school-related traffic we will see in coming weeks.

Also, before the street markings are repainted... please note that drivers headed up Peachtree toward the intersection with Gordon cannot see vehicles coming up Gordon if they stop where the Stop sign is physically located. They have to pull forward, past the sign, to see if a car is coming up Gordon.

Previously, (prior to the utility work), after commenters noted this problem, the pavement marking had been adjusted to indicate to those drivers that they should pull forward, past the actual Stop sign.

Markings at the intersection of Gordon and Ashland were also modified to clarify this messy, dangerous intersection.

Please have your traffic engineers re-examine this area and give us the clearest markings possible, to alleviate driver confusion and increase safety.

Thanks!

Echo EVERYthing that has been said in prior post. It's a dangerous place....without school buses and parents-picking-up students. It's dangerous to '3rd-power' when buses & parents are added. Thank you, first poster. Thank you!!

I agree! I wish they would make one of these streets a dead end. It would help our whole neighborhood become safer. No more cutting though. Or at least put sidewalks on one side so people aren't in danger just walking to school or taking their child on a walk. Its too dangerous, especially in the morning with Daniels parents stopping on Gordon to drop off their kid, making it unsafe for everyone, everyday.

We have forwarded this to Traffic Engineering.

School is starting, this is going to become a deadly hazard. People fly though the neighborhood using it as a dropoff, or to cut around the safety crosswalk/police. The kids even catch the bus at this rediculous intersection (5 points) and This needs to be addressed before school starts in two weeks!

Traffic engineering folks...can you plz let know what more has been done? Being acknowledged by your staff is good to know. Yet we really need to have action on this today! This neighborhood is very, very concerned. There's building construction in our neigborhood which adds more congestion & concerns. Help. Today. Now. Please. Thanks.

We are less than one week until school begins and as far as we can tell NOTHING has been done to fix this issue. We reported issue almost a month ago and the only communication has been "acknoledged" This issue needs to be escalated. This is a family neighborhood and we will have a significant influx of traffic from Daniels parents/kids/buses/bus stops/ making this intersection even more dangerous! Please provide some kind of information on what is being done and when this will be complete! thank you

It is particularly important to examine this area around 3PM (or so) on a school day. Many parents picking up children from Daniels Middle School will turn off Oberlin on to Ashland to wait, and cars sometimes line both sides of Ashland. They regularly do illegal u-turns in the large intersection area where Gordon and Peachtree intersect with Ashland, which makes this already-dangerous intersection much more hazardous. If changes are made to the intersection, please consider this factor as well.

This situation needs to be remedied in time to slow down school traffic. The intersection is unusual, there is continued and increased construction traffic in the neighborhood ((which affects visibility and alertness of drivers), and worth the start of school, there is always a marked increase in traffic at drop off and pick up times at Daniels. Please help our neighborhood be safe.

The stop sign obstruction on Peachtree was cleared on Friday, August 19 and the pavement markings were scheduled to be re-installed last week.

THANKS is in order...thanks, thanks, thanks. Thank you, City of Raleigh 2! Our entire neighborhood shouts THANK YOU---THANK YOU!!

Thank you, the intersection looks better than it did before and we appreciate it being done before school starts. However, I am having to reopen this as we still have issues that were not addressed. Parents are using our streets to drop off children on the street. There is parking allowed on the hill, even though this is a blind corner. When someone stops, there is no safe place for that car or the kids if another car comes around that corner. Our 1930s neighborhood streets are extremely narrow and parking is allowed on both sides of the street. this means only one car can pass at a time, one has to pull over in order for another to pass, there are no sidewalks, where are people supposed to walk safely?
Also, The sign showing an intersection approaching as you are going down the hill from Oberlin toward Gordon, is hidden by trees. We are being nit picky but everyday we are waiting for some catastrophic event that could have been avoided. Please reopen and redirect this however necessary to help us make this safer for kids/families in our neighborhood and the ones going to school at Daniels too!

Thanks...You Moms are very right to keep pressing these safety issues. I back you 100%...even tho I could have grands (and great-grands??) Safety for ALL...

Sorry my last post was partially wrong. The sign on ashland coming toward the intersection is visible now looks like tree has been trimmed.
I would ask that no parking signs or yellow curbs be put on the corner/hill turning off oberlin onto ashland. Not the whole thing but Something at that corner to make it clear/ illegal for cars to stop there and drop children for school. Thanks for continuing to help our neighborhood!

PeachtreeMom, from what I understand it is up to us as a neighborhood to petition the city to restrict parking. I looked into this a while back and got this name as the contact person regarding parking petitions: Sherry Beville, 919-996-4047 or sherry.beville@raleighnc.gov

As you have noted, restricting parking on one side of the street should ensure that there are always at least 2 lanes open on that part of Ashland. My suggestion would be to petition for the parking restriction on the right side of Ashland (as you face Oberlin), since the people on that side live in the condos and don't generally park on the street anyway.

This is an issue (parking on one side only) that is an imperative for safety. We also have an issue with Daniels parents parking or cutting through the alley that runs between Oberlin and Peachtree. This alley is for the use of residents to access their property and city workers only. I've seen people flying through the alley as if they are on a regular street...extremely dangerous behavior and looking for solutions to this as well. Daniels' principal should address this in a news letter.

We have passed this along to our traffic group.

No Parking corner clearance signs were installed a few weeks ago to help resolve the parking issues at this intersection. Should you need future assistance with this issue, please call Raleigh Police at 919-831-6311. This is a great number to store in your cell phone so that you can easily reach RPD for nonemergency response, 24/7.

I think the CIty of Raleigh put no parking signs in the wrong intersection based on my observation (25 year resident of 2705 Peachtree Street) and previous posts. The problem is at Oberlin & Ashland with school traffic/parking on both sides, not at Peachtree/Gordon (my corner) and Ashland. I've never seen an parking within 10 feet of the corners and would really like the no parking signs to go! Paint the curb if needed. On the Gordon Street side of my property, a needed speed limit sign was replaced with an unneeded no parking sign. Please advise. Thanks! Joe Trostel

I agree, no parking in around the intersection isn't the only issue. The issue is unsafe roads for pedestrians. Unless you block parking on one side of the street throughout the entire neighborhood or put in sidewalks, or block a street/thru traffic, It isn't enough.

Neighbors...as posted last night on Wayland Heights fb, I have a strategic contact available to us now. Needing help, plz, to present--write concisely--our concerts with the facts.

PeachtreeMom, Annetta Hoggard, 'Neighbor', RaleighWaylandHeights, Wayland Neighbor and 'Neighbor-2800' (this is me!)--we all have commented on the Ashland-Oberlin safety issues.

Would you please be in touch with me: leave a msg with your phone # on my cell? 919-630-5558 OR text me? At this point I choose not to include my landline since this is a public posting. I check cell voice & text messages...in contrast to answering it directly.
Hope to hear from you soon! Like today, tomorrow...now. So we can move forward on this real concern of ours. Thanks much. Betty Stoddard
PS: Health issues mean (as noted on WHts fb post) that I'm limited in what I can do---so I really, really need YOUR HELPS! More thanks...

Staff is conducting an intersection study at this location to determine appropriate signage to improve safety and traffic flow. We appreciate your patience.

Thank you, please let us know any additional information that we can offer We have a group of several families that have organized to help resolve this for our neighborhood we also have a wayland heights facebook page. thank you

I do think that above all, we need sidewalks throughout the neighborhood. Currently there are 8-9 brand new homes or lots IN A ROW (one in process of being torn down) on the block of Gordon and Ashland.
Is it possible for the city to require this new construction to include sidewalks?
This was a requirement for all new townhomes that were built in our neighborhood both on Ashland/Oberlin as well as those on Oberlin (directly adjacent to Daniels). Currently that new constuction are the only sidewalks in the entire neighborhood.
If all of the new homes or lots being built as we speak were required to build sidewalks, that would be approximately 1/4 of our neighborhood and would resolve one of the most dangerous intersections (not just in our neighborhood but in the city) being made safer for pedestrians/families/kids walking to Daniels.
My property is on Peachtree and backs up to Gordon and my fence would need to be taken down, but I am 100% willing to do that. I think it would also enhance our property values if our streets were safer.
thank you

Please see attached

To submit a request for sidewalk please complete an online sidewalk request form which can be found by accessing the City of Raleigh website and searching Sidewalk Petition Program then click on Petition Process then Online Petition Request Form. Complete the form and submit it for consideration.

This issue isn't resolved and until there is real permanent action taken.We will keep opening tickets until there is some additional safety added to this intersection.

We all know that it is only a matter of time before a horrible incident occurs at this intersection but it won't be from lack of trying. At least we will have documentation to the fact that nothing has been done after multiple issues reported to the city of Raleigh.

To date we have still NOT heard the results of the Intersection study mentioned on 12-12-2016

Options to be looked at as possible solutions:
1) Close off one of the 4 streets that intersect here. Peachtree/Gordon/Both directions of Ashland
2) Close off Peachtree to Ashland and keep Peachtree and Gordon connected
3) Add a stop sign at ALL streets versus Only on Peachtree and Gordon
4) Add sidewalks throughout per the previous comment on 12-13-2016

I want to add another reason for my new concerns....Last night my 5 year old son and I were walking on Gordon (with flashlights) as a minivan came barreling down the hill on Ashland (from Oberlin), and went straight through this intersection veering onto Gordon...as if it was one road.
They didn't even slow down, because there is nothing there to slow them coming down that hill.
We jumped up on the curb. We weren't in the intersection, but it was enough to scare me to death. Something has to be done to slow traffic from flying though this intersection.

PeachTree Mom I agree that this intersection is still not as safe as it could be, and I think you have hit on a simple suggestion that could make it much safer.

You are right that one of the biggest problems here is vehicles exiting Oberlin onto Ashland. They often come down the Ashland hill and enter the intersection of Peachtree and Gordon way too fast, especially considering that they can't see what is in the intersection until they are in it.

(Their visibility is obstructed by the huge and beautiful magnolia tree at the corner of Ashland and Peachtee; the tree also obstructs the view of people, on foot or in a car, coming toward Ashland from Peachtree or Gordon.)

A STOP sign on Ashland, at the corner of Ashland and Peachtree, would make this intersection much safer because it would force vehicles entering Ashland from Oberlin to come to a full stop in a position where they can actually see what is ahead of them in the intersection.

(Personally I don't think a STOP sign is needed for cars coming from the other direction on Ashland, because they have 100% visibility as they approach the intersection and cars/pedestrians in the intersection can see them coming.)

So… I’d request that the traffic engineers who are looking at this problem intersection consider installing a STOP sign at the corner of Ashland and Peachtree. And thanks to you Peachtree Mom for suggesting it.

During the week of 12-10-2016 (see below), a traffic flow test was done at several locations. Can we ask for the raw Data from this survey and from the previous one done in 2015 per http://seeclickfix.com/issues/774278-intersection-issue
This data would allow us to pursue this as recommended with the Wade CAC and other City Departments. thank you

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Staff is conducting an intersection study at this location to determine appropriate signage to improve safety and traffic flow. We appreciate your patience.
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I am again requesting data from the traffic flow testing done throughout Wayland Heights on 12-10 or ther previous study done in 2015. I would like to have that information so we can present it and a petition to the city council and local CAC. We have provided a number of options to slow or stop traffic from the Ashland hill coming down to Gordon/Peachtree. Please help us do something to protect cars and people at this dangerous intersection.

Less than an hour after posting this, a Daniels Middle School child was hit by a car. It wasn't at this intersection but it is only a matter of time. Several of us have been fighting to make our neighborhood roads safer. We are asking the City to do something about this dangerous intersection where the Ashland Hill runs into Gordon and Peachtree one block from Daniels. The goal would be to stop make that intersection safer and as a result, making the "cut through" for Daniels Middle School dropoffs much more difficult (safer) as well.

Response from the CIty!
Im excited to say that I just got off the phone with the city transportation department
1) Intersection Issue: they have already recommended stop signs at Ashland and Peachtree/Gordon and expect to finalize it within weeks! WIN
2) No Parking issue: . He said it has awareness but only the principle cam move it forward officially.
3) Sidewalks: there is a petition to be filled out for each street. 50% plus 1 vote of neighbor must sign/complete form for them to move on the project. I've filled this out for Peachtree and will be delivering forms. Sidewalks will increase property values and increase safety in our neighborhood.

Excited that the city has now added stop signs to all intersection entries! I had to write/email city council and city departments directly as well as Cak contacts but by doing so, it was then on their radar.
Waiting for stop lines to be drawn at new stops after new paving. I'm going to keep this open until that is complete. thank you

This request started with another over 2 years ago. I'm grateful that we now have stop signs at all points of this dangerous intersection and the lines have been added to the pavement. Thank you so much for the response from the city and community. closing