"Guidance:
08 Neither portable nor permanent sign supports should be located on sidewalks, bicycle facilities, or areas designated for pedestrian or bicycle traffic. If the bottom of a secondary sign that is mounted below another sign is mounted lower than 7 feet above a pedestrian sidewalk or pathway (see Section 6D.02), the secondary sign should not project more than 4 inches into the pedestrian facility."
What Infrastructure of course some closures are unavoidable but we should seek to minimize infrastructure closures and their impacts.
In this case there was no need to close the bike lane until just before the actual road work. Instead we forced folks cycling out of the bike lane and into the general purpose lane long before we needed to, on a school route no less... Bike lanes should not be blocked (esp. in Burlington where we often have a verge to use) until you actually get to the flaggers, who can help incorporate the people biking into the flow if needed (e.g., some children, some disabled people, etc.).
Additionally, there was a sidewalk closure in front of the Burlington College development, but I'm pretty sure no detour sign at the Institute Rd intersection (ultimate crosswalk before the closure) to let folks walking know that they would be "strongly encouraged (by the environment)" to jaywalk.
These are easily solvable problems, so we should solve them immediately.
Unless I am mistaken these signs are improperly placed by Green Mountain Flagging. They do this repeatedly, often in the same locations as is the case here. This will continue until Public Works makes it clear to Green Mt Flagging that this is illegal and unacceptable. Chapin Spencer has requested that we not move these signs ourselves. I'd suggest that he needs to step up his efforts to keep this company from blocking the lanes improperly.
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From the 2009 MUTCD:
"Guidance:
08 Neither portable nor permanent sign supports should be located on sidewalks, bicycle facilities, or areas designated for pedestrian or bicycle traffic. If the bottom of a secondary sign that is mounted below another sign is mounted lower than 7 feet above a pedestrian sidewalk or pathway (see Section 6D.02), the secondary sign should not project more than 4 inches into the pedestrian facility."
Source: https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/part6/part6f.htm
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What Infrastructure of course some closures are unavoidable but we should seek to minimize infrastructure closures and their impacts.
In this case there was no need to close the bike lane until just before the actual road work. Instead we forced folks cycling out of the bike lane and into the general purpose lane long before we needed to, on a school route no less... Bike lanes should not be blocked (esp. in Burlington where we often have a verge to use) until you actually get to the flaggers, who can help incorporate the people biking into the flow if needed (e.g., some children, some disabled people, etc.).
Additionally, there was a sidewalk closure in front of the Burlington College development, but I'm pretty sure no detour sign at the Institute Rd intersection (ultimate crosswalk before the closure) to let folks walking know that they would be "strongly encouraged (by the environment)" to jaywalk.
These are easily solvable problems, so we should solve them immediately.
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