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I counted 7 bicycles ( and 2 skateboarders) in 15 minutes going the wrong way down this one-way street, through the stop light at North and cutting off cars. If the city is going to spend tax money painting direction of travel arrows on these lanes, then they should be enforced. Calling the police doesn't work, and I have not heard of pro-active enforcement for bicycle violations ever in this city.
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IT Department (Verified Official)
Burlingtonian (Registered User)
Acknowledged Permitting and Inspections (Verified Official)
Please let us know how this should be enforced if the police are not called.
Code Enforcement does not have authority to stop a bicyclist since it represents a seizure of that person. The police are the only entity authorized to stop a person's movements.
The best we can do is notify the police after the fact. They will likely tell us to have the person reporting this make a call at the time of the incident so they can address it right away.
We will pass this on to the police.
Display Name Blocked (409268) (Registered User)
BPD has openly admitted that they do not ticket cyclists violating the law. Simply stated, there is no recourse when tickets arent paid. BPD wont enforce the rules of the road when it applies to cyclists.
The issue here is calling BPD doesnt do a thing. I passed a cyclist on 127 yesterday, no point in reporting the violation.
Toiletmanners (Registered User)
"BPD has openly admitted that they do not ticket cyclists violating the law. Simply stated, there is no recourse when tickets arent paid. BPD wont enforce the rules of the road when it applies to cyclists."
BPD probably has their hands full with all of the scofflaw drivers, including the ones driving the wrong way or in the bike lane down North Winooski. Enforcement isn't really a solution, since it obviously doesn't stop bad drivers from driving badly.
Has anything changed here? Has there been any new infrastructure to prevent wrong way cycling in this area? The problem isn't going to magically go away.
Display Name Blocked (409268) (Registered User)
Toiletmanners (Registered User)
I continually tell people on bikes to ride with the rules. Advocating for regulation and enforcement is kind of pointless when there's no infrastructure.
Considering that the biggest threat on the road is cars, we should work to mitigate this issue before we go after people on bikes running stop signs.
Display Name Blocked (409268) (Registered User)
Toiletmanners (Registered User)
And we also have cars driving on these roads, hitting, hurting, and killing other people using that same infrastructure. Enforcement isn't working for this problem either.
When scofflaw bicyclists start hurting and killing other road users in mass I will be more concerned about it. In the meantime, my daily commute is made difficult by drivers trying to intimidate or threaten me off of the road.
iceu (Registered User)
Toiletmanners (Registered User)
North Winooski Avenue existed long before cars did. There used to be a streetcar that rode on it.
"bicyclists loses every time there is an accident, you'd think that'd be enough"
That's exactly why the laws exist. There are people in cars feeling entitled and harassing/harming other road users. That is, in fact, an issue. And we can continue to waste SeeClickFix bandwidth until you see that fact, if you would like.
"It is NOT a crime to drive a car legally."
No, of course it isn't. But we obviously are talking about the drivers who aren't paying attention or feel entitled to drive dangerously.
Fortunately, you aren't the only one paying taxes. I pay taxes too, and yes, my taxes also go to the roads. Safer roads are a greater good, and taxes should absolutely be spent on them. Really, you should want that too, because safer roads would stop people bicycling and driving the wrong way down North Winooski.
Display Name Blocked (409268) (Registered User)
Well said ICEU.
gil (Registered User)
iceu (Registered User)
Toiletmanners (Registered User)
"recently the Burl Police Chief openly states he doesn't want to tie up his officers enforcing Bicycle laws and the press prints it to further the entitlement mentality with no repercussions."
The Chief said last night at the Council Meeting that it was his officer's discretion to stop people riding bikes for moving violations. He also said that bike/car collisions make up 3% of the collisions in Burlington, and that there are more important problems to focus on, like the Opiod Crisis.
I used to sit at the ONE Pepper Grill and watch cars go the wrong way every time I was there. I also have shared that bike lane with cars driving in it. The problem with our experiences are that they aren't quantifiable. Only a formal study would show what's really going on down North Winooski.
Closed Tmiles (Verified Official)