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We need a police presence here since no one cares there is a pedestrian crosswalk.
Crosswalk "stings," where plainclothes officers attempt to cross and traffic enforcement officers issue tickets to drivers who fail to yield, are done in many other cities. Do a news search and you'll find them. They are often announced in the press beforehand.
Chief Lewis promised that many such "stings" would be done in New Haven, but to my knowledge none ever happened.
This obviously needs to change.
This Saturday the Downtown-Wooster Square Community Management Team and Wooster Square Watch are sponsoring a community planning meeting.
Results from the 2010 New Haven quality of life survey are now available and will be a terrific indicator of the areas of focus for improving the quality of life in our neighborhood.
Please join us!
Saturday, May 8th
8:30 am -- 12 pm
(coffee and refreshments provided)
Conte Hills School Cafeteria
I hope many of you can make it to think strategically as a group about how we as citizens can make a difference in the neighborhood within our broader mission of safety through awareness and prevention.
See you there!
in regards to the second comment, i would love to spend a day as a volunteer crossing guard.
i propose spending roughly an hour at:
temple street &wall for morning rush hour
audubon & orange for evening rush hour
lincoln & trumbull in between
what should our theme be? superheroes?
(all i'm saying is i wouldn't argue with a cape.)
Legally, as long as there is no car currently In the intersection (as far as I know approaching doesn't count), the pedestrian does actually have the right of way.
As for taking their time, pedestrians are allowed to walk at whatever speed they want. Honestly, how much time does a slow pedestrian cost you? 2 seconds? 3 seconds? That's not worth getting violent over. Heck, even if I wasted an hour of your time, attempting to kill me would not be an appropriate decision.
The pedestrian always has the right of way, even if they are not in a crosswalk. The reality is that drivers are required to yield to other human beings within the lane of travel.
Please drive carefully and share the road - keep in mind that it is much easier for a driver to slow down for a few seconds than it is for a pedestrian to have to wait for several minutes to cross a busy street, or have to run across to try to avoid being killed.
mr ray, you shouldn't be traveling so fast that you can't anticipate someone having the right of way. that is the whole reason that vulnerable users have right of way at intersections.
"cars hurt" is pretty disgustingly cold reasoning for your poor driving. it is a "speed limit" for a reason.
Don't forget that the law requires not just that you adhere to the posted speed limit, but also that you slow to a safe speed that varies depending on conditions. During times of peak pedestrian traffic, the safe speed may be closer to 5–15 m.p.h.
…which is why I feel really sorry for people whose jobs require them to drive in downtown (e.g. bus drivers). There is a reason traffic moves so slowly at certain times of day: it’s simply not safe to go any faster.
Mr Ray - i wouldn't assume that previous comment by Mr Tang was directed at you -
Also, this issue isn't a "yale" issue. there aren't many "yalies" that cross that path (you could argue there is employee foot traffic). this is a bigger issue that New Haven is trying to brand itself as being a dense, urban, multi-use downtown with 24 hours of use.
This is the real world. And in the real world pedestrians are given right of way and pedestrian-friendly zones are the most precious and expensive (by property value) in our country. We have a lot of jobs in the downtown, and there is a lot of pedestrian traffic with yale students. the driving culture is not pedestrian friendly due to (insert jonathan hopkins from Independent) years of improper planning and enforcement. We in new haven, those at yale, and those at the hospital are trying vigorously to change this.
Mr. Tang's comments about traffic speeds are a reality. He is not in the slightest suggesting people drive 5mph all the time. the city speed limit is 25mph, and like brian said, it is dependent on conditions (including pedestrian and automotive traffic levels). so in the middle of the day when the downtown is bustling, the real speed limit is decreased (as is stated in law).
Dan - some pedestrians don't hustle b/c they're not able-bodied.
I won't touch the crossing guard for fear of liability, though anything done in a hypothetical world would be sweet if videod and used as a viral PSA to circulate around the city. in a hypothetical world where this PSA existed, I'm sure the PSA would be great if it had captured a few red light camera violators as well.
Mr. tang where do you get your statistics ?? 5 mph - please. If that was true you wouldn't be able to drive in New York or New Haven- Rush hour is called that for a reason.
Maybe it would be better to just eliminate car traffic in New Haven all together by closing Route 34-Then we can watch the town wither and die.......
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