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Fire Hydrant with Black, indicating there is no flow. This is now the fourth hydrant with no flow in the area. What is being done to remedy this potential disaster as there are hydrants in the area with no flow for the past16 years now.
Fire Hydrant with Black, indicating there is no flow. This is now the fourth hydrant with no flow in the area. What is being done to remedy this potential disaster as there are hydrants in the area with no flow for the past16 years now.
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City of Malden (Verified Official)
City of Malden (Verified Official)
concerned. citizen (Registered User)
Kevin Halpin (Fire Department) (Registered User)
Kevin Halpin (Fire Department) (Registered User)
concerned. citizen (Registered User)
An anonymous SeeClickFix user (Registered User)
Kevin,
Are these plans also available to fire departments we have mutual aid agreements with or is this just known to the city of Malden?
For instance if Medford Fire has to respond to this area, will they know the pertinant information to respond with the appropiate amount/type of apparatuses and equipment neccesary to succesfully fight a fire in this area; adequately, with appropiate response time, and be able to ensure the protection of life, safety, and property of the residents here?
Kevin Halpin (Fire Department) (Registered User)
Kevin Halpin (Fire Department) (Registered User)
concerned. citizen (Registered User)
Maldonite (Registered User)
Roger (Registered User)
http://malden.wickedlocal.com/x1368216806/Council-addresses-hydrant-issues-in-Malden
Roger (Registered User)
Maldonite (Registered User)
An anonymous SeeClickFix user (Registered User)
Kevin,
Its important to keep this and any further discussion open and available to the public for review.
There should be no information shared about this matter in any private means or location.
This will put questionable doubt into any accusations made toward the City of Malden and it negligence in this matter.
For instance, if I were to openly discuss this matter with you in person, there would be no public record of this
conversation and there will be reasonable doubt on the city to dismiss anything you may or not have meant to say; including pertinent information the city wants to keep from being disseminated freely is unknowingly exchanged in conversation.
concerned. citizen (Registered User)
Maldonite (Registered User)
An anonymous SeeClickFix user (Registered User)
The answer to that is a simple, yes.
If there is a pre-planed response in place, as mentioned before by the city fire department, to skirt around the effects of poor pressure in this area then there will always be a risk.
This plan in place assumes the city fire department is at full readiness with apparatus in place. This however is rare, as the fire department also responds to ALL medical calls and frequently goes to other surrounding cities to cover their needs, as mutual aid.
There are times when only one fire apparatus is on call for the whole city.
Heck its worse for EMS. Sometimes Cataldo has ONE truck parked in Wellington circle as coverage for Four cities, including Malden, due to lack of resources.
There was also a recent case where Medford Fire didn't understand that a Black Cap meant the hydrant had no pressure and hooked up to it...
So even with other cities coming into Malden for coverage, they may not know what our color coded system means; and Medford was notified of our color system before the incident.
Unless the pipes in the ground are fixed, there will always be risk.
There are currently no plans to fix these pipes; the city is possibly waiting for something to happen to the old hospital as funding and grants will be available to fix pipes and infrastructure in the streets nearby the Old Hospital if redevelopment of the property occurs.
Money is the issue here...
RR (Registered User)
concerned. citizen (Registered User)
An anonymous SeeClickFix user (Registered User)
RR,
With regards to your situation, it shows how systemic the problem really is.
Yes your pipes and hydrant were changed on your street, but these pipes connect to other pipes and hydrants on nearby streets.
If the pipes on these nearby streets have flow problems, then you will as well, as you are connected to the same system, no matter how new yours is...
Take a walk to the nearby hydrants and see what color their caps are, note the colors.
There are also locks and gates (valves) in the ground to direct flow of hydrant/potable water.
There is a possibility that some of the valves are openly to a certain degree to allow flow and divert a certain amount of flow to certain areas.
For instance, the hydrants near the hospital have adequate flow but if you walk further from the hospital, then black hydrants appear.
The valves in the ground are diverting some flow to "pertinent" areas with hydrants right now it seems...
Department of Public Works (Verified Official)