Description
There is no stop sign at the bottom of Albermarle Avenue when turning onto Shadeland Avenue The people on Shadeland Avenue are not required to stop or slow down, nor should they be.
I've been in the car multiple times with people who aren't from the area who don't see a stop sign, so they just assume they have the right of way and turn onto Shadeland Avenue without stopping. They assume the people in the other direction have to stop. This could end up being fatal.
I don't know how the township totally missed this intersection, but somebody dropped the ball on it.
5 Comments
Sage (Guest)
This will probably never get addressed, for the following reason:
Is Shadeland Ave a state road? (probably). Albemarle is an Upper Darby Twp road, in a relatively "quiet" part of Upper Darby. The low-priority-location within the township, coupled with the almost-certain bickering over who's responsible for the actual intersection ( "it's a township road, but at an intersection with a state road"), will undoubtably cause it to fall through the cracks until a fatality occurs. (All over the cost of a stop sign!)
Upper Darby Township: Step up, claim responsibility (or at least a morsel of preventative pro-action), and prove my theory wrong!
ProfQuill (Guest)
I just noticed this situation myself, it's shocking that this has been reported 2 years ago and nothing has been done. That said, because Albemarle doesn't go straight through, traffic has to slow down for a turn. It's actually convenient for me, because I treat it as a YIELD, I certainly wouldn't challenge Shadeland traffic, but if the way is clear, it's nice not to be required to stop.
As the original poster stated, for those not familiar with the area, it's quite dangerous, and I'm surprised there's not more mashing of the metal.
Closed weezy4529 (Registered User)
ProfQuill (Registered User)
I've reported, and seen, various issues reported over the years, and as Weezy says, there is no indication that UD Twp does anything about it.
I understand that vague reports like "some cars drive too fast" is not specific enough for township action, but documentation of faulty conditions should at least generate an acknowledgment or response.
Which leads to the question as to the purpose of the site -- I went back and read 'how it works', and it would appear to be appropriate to discuss traffic and street issues here, in fact an example cites a traffic light out. I assumed it was a convenient place to report community issues without having to research just which department of whatever township is responsible. And to engender conversation about an issue.
So, what's the deal, what is the site for, if it isn't for reporting road-type issues, then that should be updated in the description that such things should NOT be sent here but directly to the responsible department, or is that an exception just for UD township?
I'm not disputing the closing of old unresolved issues, but rather an explanation of what, if any, interface there is between this site and the local jurisdictions. If it is strictly chance that someone at the township happens to read what's here, much less respond or do anything, then it doesn't seem to have much functionality.
weezy4529 (Registered User)
Traffic signs and light are a different story. It used to be that a Stop Sign could be put up anywhere in a 'political' fashion but that no longer occurs. Studies have to be completed to see if the site(intersection) meet certain requirements. Perhaps a study was done at this location or is outdated or never done. Let me finish by saying that UD Twp. has Wards and each are represented by an elected councilperson whose job it is to assist in matters like these that may need extra help.
The objective of this site is to get things FIXED. Each time I close an issue it is reviewed by a moderator at this website so I am not acting without review. I also try to tell anyone interested who to contact to get the issue FIXED, if it is fixable. Some things in life just can't be fixed.
I am more than willing to help in any issue you may have by directing you to an appropriate Twp. or State contact. I hope that answers all questions you both had.