Description
This intersection, with no stop signs in the North/South directions, desperately either needs signage on the East/West stop signs indicating that oncoming traffic does not stop or stop signs in the North/South direction.
There are way too many close calls.
22 Comments
Acknowledged City of Ann Arbor (Verified Official)
Guest (Registered User)
John (Registered User)
That's a silly response. Strange you took the time. I was simply requesting the same signage that is located three blocks down at Gott and Hiscock be placed there too, only to inform people at that intersection that the oncoming traffic down (or up) Fountain does not have a stop sign.
The neighborhood (that I have lived in for 17yrs) is intentionally layed out so that every other intersection has stop signs - some are 4-way, others are 2-way. And I, for one, love the way the streets are designed.
Tim Athan (Registered User)
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John (Registered User)
Guest (Registered User)
John (Registered User)
Again, Mr. Guest troll - I like the way the streets are designed, that's EXACTLY why I moved here.
I should make a correction in an earlier post - I mentioned Fountain when I meant Spring. :)
Guest (Registered User)
John (Registered User)
ann arbor neighbor (Registered User)
And Clickfix needs to eliminate anonymous "guest" accounts. These accounts only pander to chicken trolls who come to pick fights with people.
Alison Bank (Registered User)
Hi all - I'll be starting two petitions soon - one for traffic calming at the Spring & Hiscock intersection and for speed bumps on Hiscock, going down the hill.
I live right there and cross the Spring & Hiscock intersection nearly every day with my kids - it's incredibly dangerous. At some point, my kids (and all the others that live east of Spring) will be walking alone to the bus stop at Brooks - between people flying down Spring and the confusion over the stop signs, some sort of calming is necessary.
I'm not advocating for more stop signs because I'm not an expert on this but some kind of traffic calming is greatly needed. Once the petition and survey are submitted, the city team will determine what the best method of calming is for that intersection.
Guest (Registered User)
Alison Bank (Registered User)
ann arbor neighbor (Registered User)
BMALB (Registered User)
That is beyond the scope of the department. They are very helpful with explaining other devices, such as raised crosswalks, but the restrictions and rules are complicated. A very interesting process, a very professional and dedicated staff to be sure.
But they can't add stop signs.
I hope they can guide you to a safer neighborhood. Because after all, that is what everyone on here wants.
Alison Bank (Registered User)
BMALB (Registered User)
Allison,
Here is the information about stop signs as copied from the City of AA traffic calming on-line guidebook.
"Why not just put in a stop sign?
Traffic professionals and the Michigan Manual of Uniform Traf-
fic Control Devices (MMUTCD) have found that installing stop
signs on all approaches to an intersection does not result in
fewer collisions or slower traffic. By law, the purpose of a stop
sign is to assign right of way, not to slow vehicles, and in fact,
the MMUTCD prohibits the use of stop signs as a traffic calming
device. There are many things that could go wrong in a residen-
tial neighborhood when stop signs are used at all approaches to
an intersection:
• Risks of rear end collisions are increased.
• Studies show that some drivers, once past the stop sign,
increase their speed to make up for lost time (often referred to
as “speed spiking”).
• At intersections with little traffic, “rolling stops” (not a complete
stop) are more likely to occur, which increase risk of collisions.
• More frequent stop signs increase violations as the frustrated
drivers pay less attention to the requirement for a full stop."
Guest (Registered User)
Alison Bank (Registered User)
Closed City of Ann Arbor (Verified Official)
John (Registered User)