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Motorists oftern drop off and pick up passengers from the bus station. They stop their cars along First Avenue just short of 10th Street. Bikes have to go around to the left of the stopped car, and then ride into the lane of traffic to pass the stopped car. This creates a risk of collision with a motorist who is driving in that lane. It is inevitable that people need to and will stop to pick up friends and family at a bus station. Having a No Stopping or No Standing sign has proven to be ineffective. People violate it and I don't think any threat of more enforcement will be effective. I drive by that location at least 3 times per week and more often than not a car is stopped in the bike lane. I would suggest using the very wide sidewalk next to the bus station to construct a drop off lane next to the building. There is enough room to do it. Then bikes then could stay in the bike lane without having to use the motorist's lane.
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I agree with Jmpls. Excellent idea to put the bike lane on the right (south) side of 10th Street, eastbound. And preferably with a curb or some other physical barrier on the left to separare from motor vehicle traffic. BUT, this means that bikers will need to make box turns when they want to turn left onto First Avenue North, Hennepin Avenue, Nicollet Avenue, etc.. A box turn is where you proceed through the intersection, stop, and then wait for the light to turn before you proceed to the left. I have ridden in Copenhagen, which has a very safe and sophisticated motor vehicle/biking traffic control system, and it works. But it does require bikes to make left box turns, which usually means bikers have to wait from 10-60 seconds to accomplish the turn. If bikers want the safe dedicated lanes and barriers, then they have to respect them and not go cutting across the motor vehicle lanes on left turns. So to have a safe and workable system, bikers are going to have to change their riding habits on left turns.
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Agree with mabbiker - I still see numerous issues here. I commented on this back in April 2014 and issues still continue on both 10th street and Hawthorne. Literally drove by near end of rush hour tonight in right lane on Hawthorne past a car parked in bike lane outside bus station - car turned off, no head/tail lights or hazard lights, nobody inside. Clearly the enhanced traffic control monitoring is not effective enough. In the end, additional monitoring is only a classic passive & reactionary approach, versus instituting a more long term proactive & preventative deterrent. Plenty of space there could be utilized better for adding needed temp drop off/pickup area for cars, and/or adding better physical barriers to bike lanes (I.e. Delineaters).
This has been a consistently commented and reopened issue for almost 4 years now. Apparently need to wait until an accident/injury occurs before alternative design solution gets embraced and executed?
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