It’s not even turning on red, I’m ok with no turn on red when pedestrians are crossing. It’s that pedestrians have a walk light when home ave has a green light, and the vast majority of cars turn right at that intersection. The traffic lights should have a spot in the cycle where all the lights are red, and all pedestrian walk lights are on. The walking should be separate entirely from the driving at such a large intersection.

I do agree with you though.

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Going to mark this as a duplicate of issue 4576178, which is almost identical. This one focuses on the no turn on red situation, but both are ultimately about upgrading the signal for a better ability to cross Shelburne Road. There is a period at the beginning of east-west walk where the east-west signals remain red to give pedestrians first shot at the crosswalk, an interval known as advance walk. Some call it leading pedestrian indicator (LPI). The 30 year old controller is not really built to do this, the feature here is put together through cabinet wiring. The controller, cabinet, and aerial signals are scheduled to be replaced this fiscal year, sometime this coming spring. Part of this upgrade are a pair of No Turn On Red signs to light up during the LPI. The new controller and signals will be easier to adapt to changing situations should the need arise.

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