FECES, GARBAGE AND DRUG ACTIVITY. Way to go Vallejo.

rxoo94503 it would be difficult to name a city in the Bay Area without all three and then some. Welcome to reality

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Alright. Dee, this isn't about OTHER cities, it's about this one and there's no reason to live like pigs, with FECES, TRASH & DRUGS making the place look like sh#*.

Wow....censorship.

Dee the issue isn't about OTHER cities, it's about this one and there's no reason to live like an animal, with FECES, TRASH & DRUGS making Vallejo look like a stye.

Surely wouldn't want these irresponsible intoxicated slobs of a human housed near me in their current state. They need far more than housing and would most likely trash any housing given to them. This is most likely why they are homeless. Not because of being a responsible person falling on hard times.

“Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people” - Eleanor Roosevelt

Dee J, good statement.
I have many ideas how to end homelessness and help the homeless. I believe it is a shame that so many are homeless in this country.
I think s a society we need to brainstorm ideas and solutions for homelessness. The main problem is the government doesn’t listen nd is either complacent or unwilling to fund common sense solutions to help get people out of homelessness. Another BIG problem is that there are some making a living or even getting rich off the backs of the homeless(they don’t want to end homelessness because their jobs/ income steams would cease to exist.

Jw, I totally agree.

I think you/we need to treat people like people, maybe to teach them how to be human beings before they can be it. Running them down and keeping them down doesnt do it.

I’m not opposed to tent cities for the homeless.
What we need to do is for the city to set aside a couple acres of space away from parks, schools, etc.
-Build privacy fencing around the perimeter
-Provide porta potties
-Provide a dumpster and trash cans
-Provide outdoor showering area
(This would be a place with minimal intrusion, dogs would be allowed.
However, some basic common decency rules would apply such as
-keeping area clean and orderly(not hard with dumpsters on site)
-No violence
-no hard drugs(moderate alcohol ok)
There would be someone would would either check in on the camp daily or live onsite to oversee things.
I think this is a common sense solution to consolidate encampments from the street or from private property while providing a few basic human services.
I don’t know why Anyone who would be against this idea, it would cost Less the tax payers way less to provide these services than what is spent on cleanup, emergency room bills, etc.
This would provide a better quality of life for the homeless and the community as a whole.

This is what Pleasant Hill opted to do to resolve their increasing homeless population issue...
http://www.ktvu.com/news/non-profit-provides-more-than-just-housing-for-homeless-families

It's unfortuanate that some ppl are viewed as less than human beings due to their circumstances. Wealthy ppl are simply poor ppl with money, and having resources does not make you a superior human being. It's laughable that anyone believes that they're life has any more value than another

Lee, I agree, but I bet most of these people were treated like people before they went bad. We need to continue the discussion of the IDEA of why they went bad and the EVENTS they create and more importantly about these PEOPLE to completely find solutions. People whom want to do better by showing they care certainly deserve help. The ones whom don't care and commit crimes need adult supervision etc. and not left to their own vices. Hopefully they can learn and get better and certainly deserve that chance. I wish they had better positive actions to be described besides Feces, Garbage and Drugs etc. which homelessness doesn't cause directly. What came first the chicken or the egg?

It falls on the Community and it’s willpower and resources to solve the “homeless” issue. (“Homeless” because it’s only a part of the larger issue of inequality) Vallejo has neither the willpower or type of community spirit to fully engage in this issue. Some folks are working hard, but untill opportunities really exist, we are going to see it get worse before it gets better. Vallejo needs financial solvency and a realistic vision.

You question how these people get there? While federal workers are standing in food bank lines? If these people can’t have back up savings for one month, what does that say about the state of our country? Those people should have a sufficient salary that they shouldn’t be living paycheck to paycheck. Or some may be living above their means?
However, I digress, signing off.

I wonder if any of the squatters had a previous job at that Kmart before it closed?

Hi Law. Firstly, since you say "you bet" means that you dont exactly know for certain what proportion of "them" were treated well, or no. And, how could you, or anyone know for sure considering the magnitude, and complexity of the problem(s). Perhaps there are certain general patterns we could assume to be true, like bad luck, lack of intelligence, poor upbringing (which could could come under "luck"); maybe bad decisions; timing; offending the gods. It may also be possible that it is an eternal problem, i.e. there will always be tragedy and tragic situations which cannot be fixed, and are instead reminders of fate, or wills beyond human powers. Secondly, I disagree that homelessness, and I would add to that equation, poverty, most certainly would and could cause these situations, since, in their shoes, where are you going to poop except under the great blue sky? Too, if you are very old and decrepit, and on the street, or in a cardboard box, or in a camper, and cannot walk but a few feet, what are your alternatives? Much the same to be said for garbage. As for drugs, they might land you on the street, or they may keep you on the street. The reason that drugs of any sort are so popular is they block pain and discomfort. Sometimes it is the chicken that causes the problem. But, sometimes it is the egg that gets you. Either way, and this speaks also to the rehabilitation of the incarcerated, that humanizing must be the most hopeful solution over merely punitive approaches. Otherwise, we may be a nation of zoo keepers.

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I will always value a life on how much they contribute to making this a better world. I will always value a good cop over a bad trashy criminal. I will always value a giving hard worker over someone whom is lazy and uses other people and is never a giving person. I will always value a tax payer over a tax user. We might be created equal but we surely don't equally make good choices and contribute equally. How much money and possessions you have is irrelevant. JW, I've been talking about exactly what you are saying, I just don't want it near me as I have very little trust in them keeping it from negatively impacting the neighborhood etc..

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