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I am concerned for the safety of Haight Elementary School children crossing the Chestnut St/Lincoln Ave intersection. The intersection is just one half-block from the rear entry to school, which many (if not most?) of the 550 + students use as their primary entrance and exit.
Since there are no turn arrow lights at this particular intersection, cars making both right and left turns are regularly crossing the pedestrian walkways during pedestrian crossing times. This is dangerous enough under any circumstances, but many of the Haight Elementary School kids are small, and less visible to drivers.
Currently, there is only ONE School Zone sign (partially covered by tree growth), facing only one lane of traffic, for the entire intersection.
Just a few days ago, my son was about an inch from being hit by a car making a right turn on red, as he walked at the designated pedestrian time, through the crosswalk. I see this happen FAR too often to other kids trying to make there way to and from school, and fear it's only a matter of time before someone gets seriously injured or worse.
It's my sincere hope that, at the very least, the city puts up school zone signage, street paint, reflector lights, etc, leading up to, and at, this busy intersection. Ideally, I would love to see arrow turn lights for all directions.
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City of Alameda (Verified Official)
Acknowledged Public Works Transportation Alan (Verified Official)
Thank you for submitting your concerns/requests to the City of Alameda Public Works Department. We did a quick look at the referenced school sign via Google Streetview and found that it can be easily relocated (and improved via the relocation). We will do a site visit within the next 4-8 weeks to find a suitable new location. A work order will be drawn for our maintenance staff, and they typically complete this work within 60 days, pending weather. It is standard to provide 1 sign for each street approach (as opposed to each lane) at the relative boundaries of a school zone.
In regards to requests for additional signage, pavement markings, and "reflector lights", we assume that you are listing pedestrian improvements. Per State Department of Transportation standards at a signalized intersection, we are unable to provide those improvements at, or approaching, the intersection of Lincoln/Chestnut.
The rationale is that those improvements imply a need to "YIELD" to pedestrians WHEN PRESENT (capitalization for emphasis, not yelling). However, a traffic signal strictly communicates for users to go, slow down, or stop. The STOP is REGARDLESS OF ANOTHER'S PRESENCE. Providing two conflicting messages (yield vs stop) may have adverse results where a person may abide by the less stringent of the two rules. It is ultimately best to communicate one clear message. In this instance, the stop from the traffic signal is clearly better.
For the situations that you referenced, it is best for police to enforce and educate motorists. We have forwarded your concern to APD for enforcement.
In regards to turn arrows, those are typically installed where there is a significant amount of turning traffic and the installation of the arrow would provide an improvement to traffic circulation at the intersection (as opposed to improving pedestrian crossings). Nevertheless, we understand your concerns regarding pedestrian crossings. And we will log your concern so that we may review appropriate improvements if this item is selected for review.
The Public Works Department is currently developing a new process for our Traffic Calming Program. This process scores concerns/requests based on various data. We will then select the highest rated concerns/request to be reviewed for the following year or two. Concerns/requests that do not make the list will remain in the pool for consideration at a later time.
Lauren (Registered User)
Laura (Registered User)
Lauren, Thank you so much for highlighting this ongoing issue!
As a parent of a first grader at Haight, I’m always worried about traffic and pedestrian safety at this intersection.
I appreciate the quick response and explanation from Alan in Public Works and his bringing this to the attention of the APD. Great to know that the city takes the community’s concerns seriously. Thank you!
Kris (Registered User)
Thank you Lauren for initiating this request. We live right at this corner of Chestnut and Lincoln, and also see it as a problematic intersection. I'd like to add that I frequently see drivers speeding well above 25 mph on Lincoln Ave. to beat the traffic light. It happens for drivers heading in both directions on Lincoln, and that adds extra danger at this intersection. This happens at all hours, but I definitely see it in the 4pm hour and later, when many of us (myself included) are picking up our kids from Haight afterschool programs - kids can be/are present at all hours of the afternoon, not just school pick-up time. I would love to see greater speed monitoring on the stretch of Lincoln between Chestnut and Willow - whether that's officers patrolling that area more frequently, the radar signs alerting drivers to their speed, or other solutions.
Finally, would it be possible to have a crossing guard at the Lincoln/Chestnut intersection at school start and end times? That wouldn't provide a conflicting message to a red light, but could provide greater visibility to prevent drivers from turning when pedestrians are present. Thank you.
Sassystew13 (Registered User)
Public Works Transportation Alan (Verified Official)
Public Works Transportation Alan (Verified Official)
Public Works Transportation Alan (Verified Official)
Public Works Transportation Alan (Verified Official)
Sandyc (Registered User)
Consider having red lights to stop traffic on both Lincoln and chestnut and have 4 or 6 way walk while both lights are red allowing pedestrians to cross safely before and after school.
Cars are turning left into the crosswalks while kids are crossing and turning right on red into the crosswalks while kids are crossing.
We need more than a passive school sign. Maybe a flashing school sign. Or no turns. Or all way red light stopping traffic and pedestrian only crossing while no turns.
Public Works Transportation Alan (Verified Official)
Closed Public Works Transportation Alan (Verified Official)
We have sent a work order to our maintenance staff to relocate the school sign, facing eastbound motorists, on Lincoln Avenue at Chestnut Street. They typically complete this type of work within 30-60 days, pending weather.
In regards to the other items, we will log them with our Traffic Calming Program so that they may scored, ranked, and potentially considered at a later time. We are now closing this part of the process.
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