Description
Wiltswyk Avenue, just east of the Elmendorfer interchange (right by the abandoned "meeting hall") automobiles are using the location to meet for drug sales and to "use" their drugs.
I have encountered many people doing so, and with the warmer months approaching I am irked by the number of people choosing to get "high" where our daughter rides her bicycle and plays.
The road has in the past, been a "pullover, make a call, get your stuff and get high" road, and I have done my best to end the activity. Yet after a brief hiatus, the junkies are back.
The signs you are looking for are easy to see. A car, pulled to the side of the road, with an occupant (or 2), with their heads down (so they can see what they are rolling or injecting),
The obviousness of the activity could not be more so, as all us homeowners on the block park on our property or infront of it. We don't have young men driving up or walking up to our cars and making a transaction with us. We don't sit in our cars next to an abandoned buildings and we do not keep our heads in our laps, as we don't have a needle we are trying to fill or a blunt we are trying to roll.
My neighbors and I really would like this to end immediately, as the concern for our physical safety and that of our property is first and foremost.
It's simple. The police officers (be it NY State Troopers, UC Sheriffs or Kingston PD) know who lives on the block. They see our cars every time they drive by. When there is a car parked and occupied in front of the meeting house.....it's for no good reason. Those people need to get stopped and searched, and ARRESTED!
Crime and illicit use of narcotics will not be tolerated. NOT IN OUR BACKYARD! We ask for service and protection. We ask that it be done without us having to call and complain. We ask that it be done post-haste. We ask that our children be able to play in their backyard. And we thank you for it! Believe you me, we thank you!!!
9 Comments
gen lee (Guest)
Copper (Registered User)
really?
thats the best you have, gen lee?
wiltwyck ave.
the road i live on.
with the home my wife and i own; and live in.
with the daughter we have.
and the property taxes we pay.
how about this,
we fix the problem.
and leave the grammar and spelling corrections out of this.
seriously? (Guest)
I am assuming you don't feel comfortable approaching the vehicles, because you are afraid of the occupants? And is 59 Wiltwyck the address of the house with the issues?
I see the issue with just walking up to someones car and asking them to move along because you don't want "their kind" on your road. You would be afraid of what their response may be, whether is be verbal or physical.
If the people in fact are innocent and doing something other than preparing and using drugs, it may cause even more problems. (But I really doubt this may be the issue)
Can we collectively come up with a solution that may make the occupants feel uncomfortable with being there, but not offend people who may not be breaking the law?
Maybe a sign saying that the street is being constantly surveyed by a remote camera? But then again, actually installing a camera may be a large impedance to our personal privacies and freedoms.
Increasing police presence may be difficult due to similar posts stating a strained PD. But fear of big brother may be a big help.
Anyone else have an idea?
citizen K (Guest)
Taking a tip from Rebecca Martin, I don't have any special interest in "my" ideas... I'll go for the good ones, and the ones the community adopts.
hope to see us there
gerald berke
26 maiden ln
Kingston NY Neigborhood Watch (Registered User)
Hello,
Thanks for the report. I have posted a new set of guidelines for posting here in the hopes that we can be very clear about cars, and subjects.
Here are the guidlines
http://www.kingston-ny-neighborhood-watch.com/p/report-problem-in-kingston-ny.html
And here is a handy form you can fill out and forward to the local law enforcement
http://www.teamdarcyinc.com/forms/complaint.doc
Copper (Registered User)
i am 7 foot tall and weigh 300 pounds. i am a combat veteran.
scared to confront? hardly.
realistic in knowing the most dangerous thing you could do is approach a vehicle, yes.
it is the police's job.
not the citizenry.
not a stupid sign.
and lastly,
no honest person stops in front of an abandoned meeting house, with their foot on the brakes, takes service from a walk up dealer, keeps their nose in their laps and get's high.
what exactly do you mean by "kind" anyway? most of the people i see getting high are white men and women in nice cars. a common demographic of heroin users. are you insinuating race and social class? because there is no need for that nor for talk like it. that is how you alienate and disassociate people from a legitimate cause.
honest people stop where honest people stop.
you're ideas are absurd as well as your predisposition on my position. if you had read and disseminated from what i wrote, the address is an ABANDONED meeting house once used by the abandoned church across the street. couldn't be more crystal.
proactive policing. yanking people out of cars and taking them for everything they did wrong. it is protected by the constitution and the basic fundamental step of community policing.
that is what is needed at this location.
every trooper, sheriff and police officer knows the cars that live on the street; as we are the ones parked in our driveways and in front of our property,
unoccupied.
215 downs street, knock on my back door; if you need to be educated further or need further detailed explanation of this location and the crimes committed.
seriously? (Guest)
Read back over my post please Copper.
"their kind" refers to any type of people who are in front of the abandoned house stopping. the "druggies"
I was trying to come up with a positive solution. I am aware that it is a police problem, as well from your descriptions.
Having called the police, do they respond by sending a unit out to the scene? And do you report licence plate numbers of suspicious vehicles?
If its a police problem, and the police arent dealing with it, then there are TWO problems here, not just the one.
I was trying to come up with an alternate solution assuming that the police havent met your expectations.
If i read something wrong in what your saying, feel free to correct me. Its very tough to understand tone, and implications on the internet, and Im afraid you might have felt I came off Diminishing your masculinity or something. I was only trying to understand a situation.
Now i understand you feel my ideas are absurd. thats fine if you think they dont work. I am assuming the main thing you are asking for is more policing. thats fine. But if it hasnt worked so far, can we come up with something else that may work?
Sorry if i @#$% you off here, im not here to make any enemies or grief anyone. Just trying to be positive with some ideas. Sorry Copper!
Copper (Registered User)
no one @#$% me off.
all i want, is heroine junkies, coke-heads and pot heads off my street.
there is no reason for them to be allowed to used, purchase and participate in their activities in our backyard.
diminishing my masculinity?
now you truly are sounding absurd, there is no need speak like that, at all. your mother should have taught you better.
encouraging citizens to approach motorvehicles knowingly participating in felony activity is as absurd.
you have nothing to apologize for other than assuming all that you have.
let the police do their job, let us do ours.
(as for the reporting of plates and info, it went straight to LT T. Matthews KPD URGENT and my alderman; both of whom have taken action in the past. yet that is the past.)
you must live in a world of fuzzy happiness full of pink love and hugs.
come knock on my door.
i gave you the address.
lets have a real conversation.
on my front porch. tea, coffee, scotch or beers.
either way, come be my guest.
enough of your assuming and inability to properly comprehend queens english.
better yet, call me first. 845-594-3229.
215 downs street.
lets work together; and cease your insults and banter.
Closed Kingston NY Neigborhood Watch (Registered User)
The info has been passed on to Ulster sheriffs and KPD.
Good Job All!
Mike