Another broken low curb, further north

Loose curb in gutter, missing section on left

Whole section with no remaining protection. Curb in gutter

Further south, near City Market. Broken low curb, missing / broken flex posts.

Get rid of them! They are a hazard to the very people they try to protect, the bicyclists. These were all over the place in the winter, a real fall hazard to bicycle tires. Not to mention the plowing of these lanes was a disaster all winter. Waste of taxpayer money, which we could use to keep the roads and bike lane markings in good shape.

Thank you for reporting this issue. The Department of Public Works will now begin its investigation into the matter.

@ Wolfgang... or maybe the city could just properly repair, replace and maintain the lane so it is safe for users year round, instead of just giving up and tearing it out?

@ That Guy. I don't see a good snow removal strategy being in place to support this. And maybe someone should ask the plow drivers (especially the big plows) what they think about all of this plastic stuff cluttering up our streets. Also our drainage is terrible, half the protected lane is under water and mud at times.
I grew up in Europe and have been frustrated with protected bike lanes put up in the 1980's, very similar to what we are doing at South Union. They seem fine until a "temporarily" parked car blocks your way, or garbage cans or any other obstacle prevents you from continuing. In Beijing they have protected bike lanes but they are 15-20 feet wide, that's a different story. I have used and enjoyed them. I think we are trying to fit a square peg into a round hole here in Burlington.

@ wolfgang. Maybe DPW needs to update their snow removal strategy so they can properly support this, and other safe infrastructure in Burlington? Maybe they could use a smaller plow to clear the street? Maybe they could fix the drainage? Other northern cities have figured out how to maintain protected bike lanes in the winter, so why can't we?

Tearing the lane out and giving up because DPW can't build and maintain safe infrastructure in the winter isn't the right path forward. We're not Beijing, we're also not Europe, but we have to find a solution that works here in BTV that doesn't involve just giving up when something isn't working as well as we'd like it to. Look at Montreal & Minneapolis which are consistently in the top 10 cities for biking... they get as much or more snow than we do and have ways to make things work.

I like bike lanes, I commute along South Winooski every day to work. We don't have enough of them. They are not continuous, or even of a constant width, and they are not well maintained or engineered. They are not marked or even colored consistently. I would start there before doing any more experiments. Burlington is like a patch work of different bike solutions, to the point where everyone is confused.

We are counting on DPW to keep this lane safe. Chapin Spencer, Nicolle Losch and Miro Weinberger need to realize how amateurish it looks when we don't properly repair this lane. It also puts many people in danger.

Its a waste of taxpayers money to special interest group.

As long as local motion's influence is embedded in DPW and DPW's public works commission, this will be the result.

Road safety is a "special interest?" Keep in mind, this installation also keeps drivers from splitting the single lane, which prevents automobile collisions.

Taxpayer money (which this "special interest group" contributes to) should definitely be spent to make roads safer, and to maintain them. Wouldn't you agree?

"special interest group"

People who live in Burlington and use their bikes to get around are a special interest group? Pretty sure we pay taxes just like everyone else and cause zero wear and tear on the streets, unlike motor vehicles. We don't have space to build any more roads, which means we need to use our space more efficiently and private motor vehicles are the LEAST space efficient mode of transportation. We need to make getting around in other ways safe, comfortable, and convenient if we're going to have a sustainable city.

This project was such a negligent use of our tax dollars. They are impossible to plow around in the winter and end up broken & rendered useless for a majority of the year.

Lee Perry, Assistant Director, Maintenance Division assigned this issue to DPW Public Information Manager

You can have bike lanes without all the plastic. The protected Bike lanes are a failure in Burlington. It make work other places, but it doesnt work here (just look at its condition) You can offer citizens the option to utilize different modes of transportation without neglecting the rest of the City. What good are bike lanes if our roads can't be properly maintained

It is a known fact that the Director of DPW Chapin Spencer is not qualified for the position, was the former director of local motion and biased towards cycling.

One should also evaluate recent additions to the public works commission and their ties to local motion.

"You can have bike lanes without all the plastic. The protected Bike lanes are a failure in Burlington."

I can remember what Union Street bike lane was like before the physical infrastructure. I shared the bike lane with cars either encroaching, or straight up driving in the lane. I do agree; plastic is not ideal, and I would rather see a curb style barrier. You don't like the current system? What's your solution?

"What good are bike lanes if our roads can't be properly maintained"

Not good at all, which is why this SeeClickFix is open.

"It is a known fact that the Director of DPW Chapin Spencer is not qualified for the position, was the former director of local motion and biased towards cycling."

Uh, a known opinion you mean. If Chapin Spencer was so biased toward cycling why would this SeeClickFix even exist in the first place? Wouldn't the bike lane be clean and well maintained all the time?

This SCF posting exists because of the failed leadership at DPW, an unqualified DPW director. A Public Works director should have an engineering background.

A proposed solution would be to properly mark the road and remove the barriers in the winter. This wouldn't be an issue if things were looked at from a common sense stand point.

"This SCF posting exists because of the failed leadership at DPW, an unqualified DPW director. A Public Works director should have an engineering background."

Your opinion is noted. I think it's because we let grossly incompetent people drive.

"A proposed solution would be to properly mark the road and remove the barriers in the winter. This wouldn't be an issue if things were looked at from a common sense stand point."

How does this solution keep drivers from driving where they should not?

We let grossly incompetent people drive, ride bikes, and no one enforces traffic laws.

"How does this solution keep drivers from driving where they should not?"
-Same way they do it throughout the rest of Burlington that doesn't have protected bike lanes. Not all of North Ave is protected. Not all of Union is protected.

The protected Bike lanes on Union have been a complete failure.

bruh just get better at riding ur bike then

"We let grossly incompetent people drive, ride bikes, and no one enforces traffic laws."

I totally agree. And I suspect that you would agree that incompetent drivers are the biggest and most numerous danger on the road.

"Same way they do it throughout the rest of Burlington that doesn't have protected bike lanes. Not all of North Ave is protected. Not all of Union is protected."

Indeed. and people drive and park in the North Avenue bike lanes. Where the barrier is down on the North side of Union, I shared the bike lane with a driver that was so distracted by their phone that they couldn't drive in a straight line. Likely, the barrier would have prevented this behavior.

"The protected Bike lanes on Union have been a complete failure."

You keep saying that, and I will acknowledge that the barrier isn't ideal, but it is in no way a failure. Just like any road infrastructure, it needs maintenance for people to not crash into them.

Toiletmanners, I would respectfully disagree. I am concerned about the potential backlash by angered motorists. These barriers are an eyesore to say the least, even new and especially when broken like they are now. And I am not making any friends if I am forced to drive in front of cars because the bike lane is blocked by ice and snow, as it was for weeks this winter!

Regarding "lane splitting" by motorists: The reason that some drivers were driving on the bike lane along North Union, before the barriers were installed, is in my opinion simply confusion. The two white lines we had for over tow years, separated by more than a foot, and almost no markings on the actual bike lane, was confusing to many motorists who I noticed were actually trying to drive as much to the right as a result, not realizing they were in a one way street.

My suggestion as a biker is to have more "bike" symbols along bike lanes, every fifty feet at least, and/or use a color to mark the bike lane, and have the same consistent marking system throughout the city. And I vote that we change course and lose the cheap plastic all over our beautiful city.
On North Avenue we could build something more permanent, but South Union is just not working.

"I am concerned about the potential backlash by angered motorists."

Why should drivers be angry about infrastructure that makes their drive safer? How can they be angry about being physically barriered from a bike lane that they shouldn't be parking or driving in?

"Regarding "lane splitting" by motorists..."

There are bike lane signs posted on poles there. The markings could be more frequent I guess, but without a barrier they will just be driven over and worn down. Every driver I've ever confronted about driving in the bike lane was belligerent about it, and I make a point about confronting drivers politely.

Traffic lights are pretty ugly too, but I bet we all agree they are pretty important for road safety. Yeah, the plastic is ugly. It's not ideal. Let's put something permanent down and then maintain it.

"Why should drivers be angry about infrastructure that makes their drive safer? How can they be angry about being physically barriered from a bike lane that they shouldn't be parking or driving in?"

Because it is seen as adding unnecessary infrastructure in a town that is falling apart. It has narrowed the road, fire department has an issue. Makes snow removal more difficult. Looks terrible. Its a waste of plastic. All around NO ONE LIKES IT BUT A FEW CYCLISTS. And in its current state is a hazard.

Not to mention the plastic barriers displaced can cause damage to a vehicle

"Because it is seen as adding unnecessary infrastructure in a town that is falling apart."

Why is it unnecessary? The damage that the plastic barriers have received from automobiles proves the need.

"It has narrowed the road, fire department has an issue."

Show me a quote from a firefighter that says they cannot get their truck down Union Street. The road isn't narrower. It has been one lane for as long as cars got as wide as they are.

"Makes snow removal more difficult."

This does seem to be true, but if the snow removal plan was followed, it wouldn't have been. The question is why DPW wasn't able to keep up.

"All around NO ONE LIKES IT BUT A FEW CYCLISTS."

The idea is to get more people biking. Putting up safety infrastructure that calms Union (which by the way, is straddled on both sides by much wider connecting streets through town) making it more appealing to people already receptive to the idea. That means less congestion and traffic jams.

"Not to mention the plastic barriers displaced can cause damage to a vehicle"

How did they get displaced? Did the other cars that crashed into them get damaged too?

"The protected Bike lanes on Union have been a complete failure."

I completely disagree. Before the barriers were installed drivers routinely drove in the bike lane, despite the clear lane markings and signage. Once the barriers were installed drivers ability to stay in their lane miraculously improved in an instant and lane departure became an exception. They are 100% working as intended, to clearly delineate the bike lane from the general purpose lane and keep motorists in the general purpose lane away from vulnerable road users.

I agree the plastic delineators are not as aesthetically pleasing as a permanent streetscape would be and I support making changes that will beautify the street and provide more durable structures to stand up to plowing for all ways of getting around.

RJ, I did not want to comment any more on this thread but you clearly haven’t tried to use these lanes this winter. They were literally suicidal if they weren’t buried under three feet of snow. The plastic curbs were all over the place at a 45 degree angle ready to catch your bike tire, several inches of hardpacked ice. Water several inches deep. South Union was a complete and utter failure for more than two months. I bike every day in the city. Do you?

Wolf speaks from authority as a parent and biker, RJ speaks from authority as a tireless advocate for safe bike lanes. I respect both of them. The question is whether DPW and the mayor are listening. I literally saw Nicolle and Chapin installing this lane, actually drilling and attaching the curbs. How do they feel about their efforts and what they have come to. They need to honestly communicate what their plan is so we can move forward.

Wolfgang, I ride everyday to work including during Winter. Union Street was definitely unrideable for about 2 weeks there, and then cautious for another week. I took alternate routes, including Willard and snaking through the mall.

That's absolutely a maintenance issue.The bike lane wasn't plowed or salted during those two weeks at all. DPW clearly had their hands full with frozen water mains and street clearing. Getting DPW the resources they need is the ultimate answer here, not taking away useful infrastructure.

As a very basic level, this lane was 100% functional when originally installed, and it has not been maintained or repaired since. 2 winters with zero repairs/replacements have left a patchwork of broken/damaged infrastructure. DPW should return this lane to the original condition after installation, and pledge to maintain it in all seasons moving forward. Throwing our hands up & saying "this doesn't work" when there has been no work done, isn't a viable solution for safe bike infrastructure in Burlington.

" it has not been maintained or repaired since. 2 winters with zero repairs/replacements have left a patchwork of broken/damaged infrastructure."

Which is why it has been a failure and DPW leadership needs replacement

" pledge to maintain it in all seasons moving forward"
They cant even manage Burlington as it is.

"Which is why it has been a failure and DPW leadership needs replacement"

Do you think another person can do a better job with the same resources? Who?

"They cant even manage Burlington as it is."

Clearly, the methods and materials we currently use for roads don't really work that well here. That Guy isn't asking for something unreasonable; maintaining all of our road infrastructure should be something that DPW has the means to do.

These barriers as well as the concrete rain gardens on the corners make it very difficult to turn the corner from Grant Street, to union, as well as others. In the winter you have to turn in wide, with another car coming I’ve had my mirror hit(not my fault) people short cutting the corners. If they listen to their plow drivers their sidewalk drivers they would hear that they are tired and fed up with this it took me 20 minutes to go from Pearl Street to North sreet Behind a trash truck and the recycle truck what happens if we need an ambulance these are a joke real big waste of taxpayer money

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Wow what a partisan website, Don’t agree don’t get a heard

Was wondering, is the only way I can be heard is to agree fully with this ridiculous situation and the ONE?

Wow

"Do you think another person can do a better job with the same resources? Who?"

Someone with City management and/or Civil/Industrial Engineering background. Someone who can prioritize City infrastructure maintenance. If you don't have the resources to maintain the protected bike lane, don't install a protected bike lane.

"maintaining all of our road infrastructure should be something that DPW has the means to do"

I agree, but they don't have the resources.

Well TWD

Well said TWD. I too have heard that the employees at DPW are fed up. Unfortunately I've also heard that if they speak up that are reprimanded.

"In the winter you have to turn in wide, with another car coming I’ve had my mirror hit(not my fault) people short cutting the corners."

So another driver hit your car because of a dangerous maneuver.

"If they listen to their plow drivers their sidewalk drivers they would hear that they are tired and fed up with this..."

This is hear-say and not verifable. Why would they be fed up with it? Is it really that difficult to plow this lane? Why?

"it took me 20 minutes to go from Pearl Street to North sreet Behind a trash truck and the recycle truck"

How would not having the barrier have changed this? There's no way you would be able to pass a garbage truck safely on Union Street, even if it were straight driving in the bike lane.

"If you don't have the resources to maintain the protected bike lane, don't install a protected bike lane."

Or get the resources you need to maintain the protected bike lane. You seem to think that a person with "City management and/or Civil/Industrial Engineering background" isn't going to just set up more protected bike lanes, but that does seem to be the trend in civil engineering. See every other city in America.

"Or get the resources you need to maintain the protected bike lane"

This isn't a video game. There are not infinite resources available. You cant continue to raise taxes and take out bonds to repair our infrastructure then spend the money and man power on protected bike lanes.

I don't think that a person with a qualified background would push for as many protected bike lanes as Chapin Spencer given the condition of Burlington's infrastructure and roads. I see a lot of Cities in America do it, I also see a lot of Cities in America not doing it. Should Burlington just continue to borrow money for protected bike lanes? Let the next generation pay for it? Just wait till the new taxes come into effect in 2020. A lot of people will be taxed out of Burlington.

I bet Flint Michigan would benefit from protected bike lanes before fixing their drinking water.

"This isn't a video game. There are not infinite resources available. You cant continue to raise taxes and take out bonds to repair our infrastructure then spend the money and man power on protected bike lanes."

You're absolutely right. We also cannot keep up with the growth rate of cars on the road in the city. If you aren't for protected bike lanes, what's your solution for this?

"Should Burlington just continue to borrow money for protected bike lanes? Let the next generation pay for it?"

I suspect bicycle infrastructure will cost us less overall than if we just continue to repaint the same lines and refill the same potholes every year.

"I bet Flint Michigan would benefit from protected bike lanes before fixing their drinking water."

I bet Flint could do both, at the same time. We don't plod along just doing one project at a time.

I have spoken to at least six people from Burlington public works that say that it doesn’t matter what they think they’ve been told from Spencer and Weinberger to just get used to it,this is the new Burlington and it’s going to be much more bicycle friendly with and it is now. They don’t care what anybody thinks this is what they’re going to do and it’s their way so deal with it I think it’s a joke, they should be ashamed of themselves

Put a limit on new construction. Our Mayor have encouraged building beyond what our infrastructure can handle.

The City took out a 20 million bond to improve infrastructure. Unfortunately the roads are repaved the cheapest possible and last only a dew years. East Ave is a great example.

Thats where I find your logic very narrow minded and entitled. Where is Flint going to get the money?

Bet if you ask, would you like your taxes increased and you water lines fixed? Yes, but can't afford more taxes.
Would you like protected bike lanes?
I dont care, drinking water seems like a bigger priority

"Put a limit on new construction. Our Mayor have encouraged building beyond what our infrastructure can handle."

While I don't necessarily think we should be letting developers be excepted from existing building codes, limiting construction in the city will just push it out into the suburbs, hurting our tax base, and still increasing automobile trips.

"The City took out a 20 million bond to improve infrastructure. Unfortunately the roads are repaved the cheapest possible and last only a dew years. East Ave is a great example."

A huge chunk of that 20 million is preventative maintenance that was never performed, and now costs much more to replace. I don't know enough about road materials to make a qualified comment about what is cheap and what isn't, but I suspect that there are better materials out there to make a road with.

"Thats where I find your logic very narrow minded and entitled. Where is Flint going to get the money?"

The Flint water issue is complicated and a very different situation than bike lanes in Burlington, but Flint's water crisis is pretty much resolved. They replaced their pipes and changed their water source.

"Bet if you ask, would you like your taxes increased and you water lines fixed? Yes, but can't afford more taxes."

I just looked up the budget for DPW. It looks like the city is paying a difference of 1.67 million dollars. Is a 20,000 dollar plastic protected bike lane kit to prove a safer street concept going to break the bank?

"Would you like protected bike lanes?
I dont care, drinking water seems like a bigger priority"

I don't care that you don't care. Safe streets are not quite as high of a priority of safe drinking water, but it's pretty important. If my share of the taxes aren't building and maintaining safe street infrastructure, why should I even pay them?

The new Burlington that no one really asked for.

"While I don't necessarily think we should be letting developers be excepted from existing building codes, limiting construction in the city will just push it out into the suburbs, hurting our tax base, and still increasing automobile trips."

You can only hurt the tax base by removing existing tax base. I don't think Burlington will be removing housing anytime soon. With a housing shortage, building up the suburbs isn't going to effect Burlingtons tax base. Burlington's population isn't decreasing.

"The Flint water issue is complicated and a very different situation than bike lanes in Burlington, but Flint's water crisis is pretty much resolved. They replaced their pipes and changed their water source."

From Wikipedia: "However, as of January 2019, residents and officials still express doubt over whether the water in Flint is safe to drink.[4] All the lead pipes are being replaced, which is expected to be completed in 2019"

"Is a 20,000 dollar plastic protected bike lane kit to prove a safer street concept going to break the bank?"
Nope but it could be utilized elsewhere. Do you know what percentage of Burlington residents ride bikes vs. commute by car?

"If my share of the taxes aren't building and maintaining safe street infrastructure, why should I even pay them?"
#1 your taxes dont just pay for safe streets
#2 I'd like to point out that IT IS NOT BEING MAINTAINED. Hence the problem.

From Wikipedia
" Most asphalt surfaces are laid on a gravel base, which is generally at least as thick as the asphalt layer, although some 'full depth' asphalt surfaces are laid directly on the native subgrade. "

Burlington does not pave on a gravel base, they lay asphalt directly on the native subgrade. Which is why newly paved roads are breaking down.
Another reason we need a better Director of DPW.

"You can only hurt the tax base by removing existing tax base. I don't think Burlington will be removing housing anytime soon. With a housing shortage, building up the suburbs isn't going to effect Burlingtons tax base."

When we push housing out to the suburbs, businesses get built there too. How will these people get to work in Burlington? Where will they park? Your logic would be sound if Burlington is using its land 100% efficiently, but there are dirt lots and abandoned buildings tucked in corners all over the city.

"From Wikipedia: "However, as of January 2019, residents and officials still express doubt over whether the water in Flint is safe to drink.[4] All the lead pipes are being replaced, which is expected to be completed in 2019""

Yeah, I doubt I would trust Flint's drinking water too, but that doesn't mean it's not safe to drink.

"Nope but it could be utilized elsewhere. Do you know what percentage of Burlington residents ride bikes vs. commute by car?"

I saw some numbers for this somewhere, broken up by neighborhood. In the Old North End, something like 15% of people bike commute, and 30% do not own cars at all. That's a significant chunk of people deserve safer streets.

"#1 your taxes dont just pay for safe streets
#2 I'd like to point out that IT IS NOT BEING MAINTAINED. Hence the problem."

Indeed, they pay for a bunch of things, and that's why I pay them. And you're absolutely right: the roads aren't in good shape. This SeeClickFix is expressing that.

I'm hearing from your points that this isn't just about road use and maintenance, and maybe has more to do with population/culture shift in Burlington?

If you're worried about businesses in Burlington, removing the parking they have relied on for years is definitely going to negatively affect their business.

If businesses are built in the suburbs, then people don't have a need to go into Burlington (A lot of people don't). Business are already being built outside Burlington.

I don't think its about a population/culture shift in Burlington. Most people I speak with are not going to bike year round. I cant bike to work, doesn't do well in my job description to show up sweaty and in need of a shower. Are you implying that Burlington is shifting to a more bicycle culture or are those in power wanting to push that agenda?

My complaint has a lot to do with road use and maintenance. They are poorly built and poorly maintained. Im curious what total percentage of Burlington commutes to work via bicycle.

"If you're worried about businesses in Burlington, removing the parking they have relied on for years is definitely going to negatively affect their business."

Absolutely. There needs to be a balance of parking and safer infrastructure.

"If businesses are built in the suburbs, then people don't have a need to go into Burlington (A lot of people don't). Business are already being built outside Burlington."

Yes, and this is a pretty big problem for Burlington's tax base. Burlington needs to remain competitive with the suburbs.

"Most people I speak with are not going to bike year round. I cant bike to work, doesn't do well in my job description to show up sweaty and in need of a shower."

That's alright! It doesn't work for you and that's fine. But it can work for some people who are already interested in bike commuting, but think the roads are unsafe. They drive instead, even for short trips, adding to congestion and lack of parking.

"Are you implying that Burlington is shifting to a more bicycle culture or are those in power wanting to push that agenda?"

I'm asking if you think that bike lanes are part of a larger culture shift in Burlington, and if that's what you're upset about. I'm pretty sure we can agree that roads should be safe (and drinking water clean). You bring many financial points, which makes it seems as though your grievance is fiscal.

"My complaint has a lot to do with road use and maintenance. They are poorly built and poorly maintained. Im curious what total percentage of Burlington commutes to work via bicycle."

I agree. These roads were made for horses, wagons, and people walking. We're using cars on them that weigh twice as much and go faster than these roads were designed for.

"Yes, and this is a pretty big problem for Burlington's tax base. Burlington needs to remain competitive with the suburbs"

Yet it is not business friendly. Look at the businesses on Pearl who asked to keep existing parking. Nope, was turned into a bike lane.

"That's alright! It doesn't work for you and that's fine. But it can work for some people who are already interested in bike commuting, but think the roads are unsafe. They drive instead, even for short trips, adding to congestion and lack of parking. "

But do we make it work for the 15% at the expense of the other 85%, and how many people cycle year round?

"I'm asking if you think that bike lanes are part of a larger culture shift in Burlington, and if that's what you're upset about."

Not at all, I've lived here for many years and found Vermont to be bicycle friendly, health aware community. I do not think there is a cultural shift. I think there is an agenda from the public officials. To make Burlington what they want, not the majority of Burlington. Last election the mayor did not have over 50% of the vote.

"I agree. These roads were made for horses, wagons, and people walking. We're using cars on them that weigh twice as much and go faster than these roads were designed for."

The roads were originally used by horses, wagons, and people walking. But they have been rebuilt for many decades to be used by cars. Its DPW's poor choice to not properly build roads.

My issue is the leadership at DPW, allocation of municipal finances, and overall doing things as cheap as possible without any accountability to do it right.

"Yet it is not business friendly. Look at the businesses on Pearl who asked to keep existing parking. Nope, was turned into a bike lane."

Bike lanes have been shown to make businesses more accessible to people who otherwise wouldn't go there. While those businesses on Pearl don't have free streetside parking anymore, they still have a parking garage around the corner and plenty of ancillary parking in the neighborhood. I think it's reasonable to expect able people to walk a short distance to their destination.

"But do we make it work for the 15% at the expense of the other 85%, and how many people cycle year round?"

Do bike lanes actively hurt drivers? When they are used as a way to narrow the road, they can make the road safer for drivers too. And on top of less congestion, nobody is really losing anything here.

"I do not think there is a cultural shift. I think there is an agenda from the public officials. To make Burlington what they want, not the majority of Burlington. Last election the mayor did not have over 50% of the vote."

Fair enough. I do remember the advisory vote on the North Avenue road diet passing with a majority though. So at least part of that agenda is supported by a citizen vote.

"But they have been rebuilt for many decades to be used by cars. Its DPW's poor choice to not properly build roads."

Certainly, but I think the better word for it is retrofitted. They are still narrow with blind corners intended for 10mph speeds. There are old photos of the Shelburne Road Rotary showing it literally hasn't changed since the 1930's.

"My issue is the leadership at DPW, allocation of municipal finances, and overall doing things as cheap as possible without any accountability to do it right."

That's fine, I pretty much agree, except that I want DPW to do things affordably. SeeClickFix is a good way to do that, and this particular request is also expressing your concerns.

"While those businesses on Pearl don't have free streetside parking anymore, they still have a parking garage around the corner and plenty of ancillary parking in the neighborhood. I think it's reasonable to expect able people to walk a short distance to their destination."

Not for those with handicap issues.

"Do bike lanes actively hurt drivers? When they are used as a way to narrow the road, they can make the road safer for drivers too."

When they are not properly maintained they present a hazard to everyone.

"Fair enough. I do remember the advisory vote on the North Avenue road diet passing with a majority though. So at least part of that agenda is supported by a citizen vote."

Sure. I had no problem with the road diet on North Ave, escept for the armadillos. DPW didnt properly plan for it and shut down 127 the following year for paving. Hey take the beltline, too bad its closed.

"Certainly, but I think the better word for it is retrofitted. They are still narrow with blind corners intended for 10mph speeds. There are old photos of the Shelburne Road Rotary showing it literally hasn't changed since the 1930's. "

Ok. But we're talking about DPW's ability to properly rebuild, repair, and maintain.

In all, I dont dislike bikes. I dont dislike cycling. I dislike the way DPW and the Mayor are dictating what we want. I think the protected bike lane on Union has been a complete failure from a DPW management perspective.

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