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This one block of an uphill section of Thornhill presents a mockery of OAKDOT. The street is so deteriated that patching lasts 1-2 weeks. Prop KK was supposed to pay for road paving but has paid only for that insanely dangerous car slalom on Broadway at Brookside and the bizarre side-center parking on Telegraph. Ryan Russo may be upping his cred as a bike-lover but the memory of this disaster of a street will follow him back to New York.
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Acknowledged City of Oakland (Verified Official)
Robert Prinz (Registered User)
The upper part of Moraga Ave was just repaved recently but it looks like there are no plans for Thornhill yet, either this or next year. The current and upcoming paving plans are available to view online at https://oakbec.s3.amazonaws.com/MapLanding/maps/pavingdashboard.html.
A new 5-year paving plan will be introduced after 2019, so this is a good time to get additional streets on the radar.
The project on Broadway that you referred to was paid for by the Caltdecott Tunnel 4th Bore settlement with Caltrans, and not via Measure KK. This project was in development going back to 2008, long before the formation of the Oakland DOT and the hiring of Ryan Russo. The Telegraph Ave project between 20th-29th Streets was developed in 2014, also well before Ryan Russo’s tenure.
PeterOakland (Registered User)
In other words, if you live on the uphill side of Highway 13, you're out of luck, and so is your vehicle's suspension and wheel alignment, to say nothing of any dentures you may be wearing. Broadway Terrace, from 13 all the way up to Skyline Blvd, is a disaster, and has been for years. SeeClickFix reports avail us nothing, much of the time.
The Chronicle recently reported :
The Bay Area has the worst roads in the nation, according to a new report by TRIP, a Washington, D.C.-based transportation research group, that seeks to bolster a campaign by California transit officials to preserve the state’s recent gas tax hike.
Seventy-one percent of the streets in San Francisco, Oakland and nearby cities are dilapidated, and the average motorist loses $1,049 a year in repair costs from driving on the bumpy pavement...
I've often wondered if auto repair shops are behind the lack of attention paid to our crumbling streets.
Bill Shirley (Registered User)
Robert Prinz (Registered User)
Robert Prinz (Registered User)
Bill Shirley (Registered User)
Robert Prinz (Registered User)
Like I said Bill, I don’t work for the city so those are better questions for the staff members managing the paving program. In general though I’d respond that preventative maintenance to keep a road in reasonable condition is exponentially cheaper than rebuilding the same mileage of failed roadway. So, as the city continues to slowly bring pavement condition up the costs per mile go down. But the preventative maintenance has to happen also to ensure that we don’t allow more streets to fail in the meantime.
The paving contracts I’ve seen are focused appropriately on both rebuilding failed streets strategically, as well as fair amount of preventative maintenance. Doing it responsibly takes a long time, and I as well am frustrated that we can’t move faster. The only way I can see the process speeding up is with a big infusion from the state or federal level, as Oakland can only do so much internally.
As for what the OakDOT formation has accomplished, there’s plenty but I’ll point specifically to their ability to now do paving projects in-house, as well as contracting them out, by purchasing their own paving equipment and training city employees. The in-house crews can work faster and cheaper than contractors, and this was put to good use already this year on paving projects throughout the city.
PeterOakland (Registered User)
I just now drove up and down Broadway Terrace between Pine Needle and the Hwy 13 on-ramp. My car's memory is better than mine, evidently. The street isn't really that bad -- there are a few small holes and spots with deteriorating pavement, but not as awful as I had depicted. Apologies to OAKDOT. And, there are a couple of places between 15000 and 16060 that could use some attention.
Closed City of Oakland (Verified Official)